Should I Pay Taxes? Need a Tax Revolt

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Blacktiger2005, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    I don't mind paying my share of taxes. The spend and stiff crowd(conservatives) wanted something for nonething.
     
  2. NCBradin

    NCBradin New Member

    Here's my answer to higher taxes of all:

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  3. Sir Nose

    Sir Nose New Member

    No, that is why poor people pay no income tax at all, in fact, they receive Earned Income Tax Credit.

    I think Obama disagrees with the idea that Americans are undertaxed:

    WASHINGTON -- President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats are crafting a plan to offer about $300 billion of tax cuts to individuals and businesses...

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123111279694652423.html
     
    Last edited: Apr 3, 2009
  4. pettyofficerj

    pettyofficerj New Member

    Boston Tea Party much?

    :smt068
     
  5. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Are you opposed to this? If not, why not? Is this not penalizing the rich by taxing them while benefiting the poor?
     
  6. Sir Nose

    Sir Nose New Member

    I don't have a problem with it, but I think the person should have to be employed or on unemployment for a limited period of time to qualify.

    While it is true that these working poor would pay no income tax, you have to consider the fact that sales tax, gasoline tax, etc make up a larger percent of their income than a middle class or rich person. This EIT offsets that.
     
  7. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

    That's why if I were President, the tax rate would be very low, no more than 8% across the board. That way, even the low-income wage earners can pay it.

    And poor people use things too. They use the public schools, which many of them don't pay for (because many of them are renters and don't own land).

    And I didn't vote for Obama, nor did I vote for McCain either.
     
  8. chicity

    chicity New Member

    And what of those unable to work?
     
  9. chicity

    chicity New Member

    Are you opposed to public schooling for the poor?


    eta: 8% of your income is HUGE when your income is small.
     
  10. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

    No I am not against public schools. I attended them from kindergarten to the 12th grade. I was merely stating that some lower income people do use services that they do not contribute to financially. And while it is significant for someone who makes 20k/year (like myself), it's not oppressive. It would be $1600/year. I do not believe the government should discriminate against someone who makes more money.

    If an 8% tax rate is too much, we can lower it to 6%. That would be fine with me
     
  11. Sir Nose

    Sir Nose New Member

    Can you be more specific? If you mean unemployed due to a disability, there are several tax breaks that apply which probably make EIT insignificant, but yes, I would include that group.
     
  12. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Hannity is doing this Tea Party nonsense. Where were the GOP when they were in total control eight years ago?
     
  13. raocha

    raocha Active Member

  14. Sir Nose

    Sir Nose New Member

    Busy cutting taxes?
     
  15. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

    They were busy going along with whatever Bush wanted.

    Don't be fooled. Bush wasn't fiscally conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He spent as much as any Democratic president and the Republicans in both houses pretty much went along with it
     
  16. satyricon

    satyricon Guest

    ???

    Clinton left behind a multi-billion dollar budget surplus when his tenure as president ended.

    http://www.cbo.gov/budget/data/historical.pdf

    You guys should really do some research instead of posting statements that are based upon ideological affiliation rather than fact.

     
  17. Dex216

    Dex216 New Member

    What is there to debate? We're not talking about deficits or surpluses. We're talking about spending. Clinton spent over 1.5 trillion dollars a year. He was a big spender
     
  18. satyricon

    satyricon Guest

    Uh yeah, running a country with a multi-trillion dollar economy and 300 million people costs money, but people who can do it without leaving behind a huge budget deficit deserve credit, especially when you're comparing them to recent Republican presidents who did not. A particularly salient point you left out of your analysis.

     
  19. raocha

    raocha Active Member


    How do you propose to maintain the amenities and standard of living commensurate with what people expect from the country with the leading economy in the world without a great deal of government spending? Oh...that's right. You live in Libertarian fantasy land.

    Removing the issue of budget surplus/deficits from the context of a discussion of about government spending in order to make some bizarre claim about the equivalency of the economic policies of Clinton and the most recent Republican presidents is intellectually dishonest and, quite frankly, a bit silly.

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