Cheaters

[The Dark King]

Why would being in the US matter?

No one cheats or does anything bad in any other country? Give me a break. You're grasping here.

Never said that people didn't do anything bad in other countries I was wondering if all the cheating that seems to be common practice here is the same everywhere. We are a very selfish and individualistic culture. We are the only industrialized country that refuses to give universal healthcare to its citizen. We consume more and waste more than other nation. Americans are first in selfishness which has a lot to do with cheating so I don't think its that far of a deductive leap to wonder if other people cheat as much as we do.

 

[Bookworm616]

Never said that people didn't do anything bad in other countries I was wondering if all the cheating that seems to be common practice here is the same everywhere. We are a very selfish and individualistic culture. We are the only industrialized country that refuses to give universal healthcare to its citizen. We consume more and waste more than other nation. Americans are first in selfishness which has a lot to do with cheating so I don't think its that far of a deductive leap to wonder if other people cheat as much as we do.

I don't think those reasons mean anything in terms of cheating.

Humans are humans. If they want to cheat, they're going to cheat. It doesn't matter what country they're from.

 

[The Dark King]

I don't think those reasons mean anything in terms of cheating.

Humans are humans. If they want to cheat, they're going to cheat. It doesn't matter what country they're from.

False. Monogamy also hangs on cultural norms like the middle east where the men are very unlikely to cheat. Where as here the sense of familial obligation is lacking. Instant gratification for the self is way more important here and in other countries the well being of all is the bigger concern.

 

[satyr]

When were you in the Middle East, and how much time did you spend cataloging social norms and cultural practices?

False. Monogamy also hangs on cultural norms like the middle east where the men are very unlikely to cheat. Where as here the sense of familial obligation is lacking. Instant gratification for the self is way more important here and in other countries the well being of all is the bigger concern.

 

[TheHuntress]

False. Monogamy also hangs on cultural norms like the middle east where the men are very unlikely to cheat. Where as here the sense of familial obligation is lacking. Instant gratification for the self is way more important here and in other countries the well being of all is the bigger concern.

So then, how about you just worry about what you're doing instead of what or who everyone else is doing and live your life as an example?

I don't see much point in debating the reasons why people cheat. Personally, I think it has always been around. Humans aren't wired for monogamy, no matter what the bullshit religions of the world try to cram down our throats- the presence of public bath houses in history are a great example of this phenomenon. If you don't like cheating then don't do it... if you want an open relationship, spell it out, including which rules you want to implement... and then just do your thing. To hell with everyone else...

Ornery DB, OUT.

 

[Leksola]

LOL.Thanks for worrying but we have the Atlantic Ocean between us
Unfortunately the same goes for my man and me :smt022

Hey, good luck for you and that lady (notice NOT "chick" LOL) that seems to be a good catch. Enjoy trimming the tree!

So you stole someone's man and you still have an ocean between you?

Well, it can be tough when you are from different countries, I know I've been there- but I wouldn't be chalking that one up on the scoreboard JUST yet.

Lots of silly generalisations on this thread. Some people will cheat, some won't. Some thought they never would, then did. Some swore that a piece on the side was the way to go, then met the person of their dreams and changed, some always have and always will, some marriages survive it, some don't.

 

[sockervadd]

I will take a blind swing:

A wealthy white girl and her all american dream boy, promised of paid marriage from parents, future prospects of countless white grand children and big white family reunions were all destroyed by a young black fling??

lol.

Same shit occured in my neck of woods, it seems white girls are fragile in sexual terms, that if you have her alone, all you really have to do is talk the talk and she will be yours whether shes engaged or married. She might regret it after (actually she will), she might even start hating you for fuckin her (even though she was screaming your name all night long) but that doesnt change the fact that shes a whore. eh?

and it doesn't change u just dipped a whore.. haha now what does that make u?

 

[The Dark King]

When were you in the Middle East, and how much time did you spend cataloging social norms and cultural practices?

Actually I did four years of political science and studied middle eastern customs. Good try thouugh asshole.

 

[The Dark King]

So then, how about you just worry about what you're doing instead of what or who everyone else is doing and live your life as an example?

I don't see much point in debating the reasons why people cheat. Personally, I think it has always been around. Humans aren't wired for monogamy, no matter what the bullshit religions of the world try to cram down our throats- the presence of public bath houses in history are a great example of this phenomenon. If you don't like cheating then don't do it... if you want an open relationship, spell it out, including which rules you want to implement... and then just do your thing. To hell with everyone else...

Ornery DB, OUT.

Db this is just a lively discussion not a guide to live life by but the lack of honesty and out right selfishness does interest me. There was a time when we governed ourselves with honor and morality. I can't help but think when did it all change.

 

[TheHuntress]

Db this is just a lively discussion not a guide to live life by but the lack of honesty and out right selfishness does interest me. There was a time when we governed ourselves with honor and morality. I can't help but think when did it all change.

I don't think thats true, MF. This sort of thing always went on, but it just wasn't appropriate to discuss it. For example, incidents of teen pregnancy were higher in the 50's than any other time in history...but we have this mistaken idea that everyone was pure and honest and good. In the Renaissance more people died of syphilis than everything else except the Plague. That doesn't exactly sound like perfection. It was considered to be proper for wealthy men to have a Mistress regardless of how their wives felt about it, too. How is that conducting oneself with more honor and dignity?

We have all of these illusions about the past, but the reality is that not much changes but the clothes.

 

[satyr]

I did several years of political science as well (UCLA), and cannot recall any source material on Middle Eastern social norms which bolsters your claim?

Actually I did four years of political science and studied middle eastern customs. Good try thouugh asshole.

 

[TheHuntress]

Db this is just a lively discussion not a guide to live life by but the lack of honesty and out right selfishness does interest me. There was a time when we governed ourselves with honor and morality. I can't help but think when did it all change.

and BTW, MF. I apologize. Reading that post from last night over again, it sounds far more wenchy than I actually intended.

 

[desreveRsIgnitirW]

and it doesn't change u just dipped a whore.. haha now what does that make u?

He's stupid.

 

[The Dark King]

I don't think thats true, MF. This sort of thing always went on, but it just wasn't appropriate to discuss it. For example, incidents of teen pregnancy were higher in the 50's than any other time in history...but we have this mistaken idea that everyone was pure and honest and good. In the Renaissance more people died of syphilis than everything else except the Plague. That doesn't exactly sound like perfection. It was considered to be proper for wealthy men to have a Mistress regardless of how their wives felt about it, too. How is that conducting oneself with more honor and dignity?

We have all of these illusions about the past, but the reality is that not much changes but the clothes.

It seemed like people actually believed in honor they actually died over it back then now people wouldn't take a hard pinch for shit they shit supposedly believe in. But you may be correct.

 

[The Dark King]

I did several years of political science as well (UCLA), and cannot recall any source material on Middle Eastern social norms which bolsters your claim?

Dude I graduated undergrad almost 6 years ago look it up I'm sure its out there. But let's use some deductive reasoning if Middle Eastern countries are strict Islamic States that follow the Qaran which demands strict guidelines for procreation and marriage. So what would you deduce?

 

[Tirkah]

When were you in the Middle East, and how much time did you spend cataloging social norms and cultural practices?

Actually I did four years of political science and studied middle eastern customs. Good try thouugh asshole.

I haven't read the entire thread but this sounds like - "I'm not an expert on Middle East customs but I did stay at Holiday Inn last night".

 

[Bookworm616]

False. Monogamy also hangs on cultural norms like the middle east where the men are very unlikely to cheat. Where as here the sense of familial obligation is lacking. Instant gratification for the self is way more important here and in other countries the well being of all is the bigger concern.

Dude I graduated undergrad almost 6 years ago look it up I'm sure its out there. But let's use some deductive reasoning if Middle Eastern countries are strict Islamic States that follow the Qaran which demands strict guidelines for procreation and marriage. So what would you deduce?

http://www.questionsaboutislam.com/women-in-islam/why-islam-allows-polygamy.php

 

[The Dark King]

I haven't read the entire thread but this sounds like - "I'm not an expert on Middle East customs but I did stay at Holiday Inn last night".

No it means I've taken multiple classes on the subject and I'm not speaking out of ignorance like you and Satyr are trying to suggest. I don't need to live in India to know people are starving to death in large numbers. Shit thousands of people just died in Japan do either one of you dummies need to be their to know it happened and that those people are in for a tough recovery.

 

[The Dark King]

http://www.questionsaboutislam.com/women-in-islam/why-islam-allows-polygamy.php

The article seems to support my claims even though monogamy was a poor choice of words on my part but these Islamic states experience far less cheating than the Western society even if for any reason but because they allow polygamy.

 

[APPIAH]

This is the internet where everybody is perfect and their shit smells like houte couture perfume and you honestly think a lot of people will jump in and say yess i am a cheating asshole?