Outsourcing: America's real job killer?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Russd, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    If, is a very big question that has no answer. If assumes a lot that was and still is unknown about the mortgage backed securities. If considers that there was complicity. If assumes that people would anticipate something that has never occurred in history. If encompasses much too much, as in if you had the answers you have a better explanation than could have, would have and should have...

    Check and mate..
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2011
  2. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The fact that a debit counts as a credit. Meaning if someone owes you 100 dollars you're worth 100 dollars even though the 100 dollars is yet to measured in anything tangible or liquid.

    I read your responses swirl and even though there are parts that are factual it doesn't make it efficient.
    The corporate system as it exists creates an illusion of upward mobility while only making a very few more wealthy.
    Like the old saying goes the rich keep getting richer and the poor don't get a fucking thing.
     
  3. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Now Andrae, we both know the fiction associated with financial accounting, lol. Where else does depreciation and amortization have a positive effect on your real income, lol. GAPP is not a measure of wealth for the individual, as you know it's a tool used to compare companies on an apples and apples basis, because they all are required to follow the same rules.

    The points that you now raise, the illusion of upward mobility, is quite distinct from the question of why the middle class is shrinking.

    I agree with you that there's all kinds of illusions being cast in society. However, the assumption implicit in that statement is that people are powerless to do anything and are just pawns. For many who aren't well educated, articulate and industrious, this may be true. But, for people like yourself, someone just starting out, the world is at your feet, and you don't realize it.

    I wish that I had a day or two to sit and talk to you about how I have managed my career choices throughout my life. You have a lot more power than you give yourself credit for, if only you didn't have such a defeatist attitude about life, about your ability to build something real.

    I've been often told in business that I walk with a swagger, but it's really something more. It was always the knowledge that I knew I was smarter than my boss's boss, that they couldn't and I wouldn't allow them, ever, to define my potential. But, if you want to play with the big dogs you have to be prepared to pull the trigger, and I was always ready. The golden handcuffs of a secure career wasn't for me, because I knew I could do better, and I did, on my own terms.

    You can do the same my friend, if only you believed a bit more in yourself. As for me, I have always chosen to walk a different path, even if I was the only one on the trail. You can make that decision to, IF you want it badly enough.
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Oh I agree totally but I thought we were talking on a macro level not a micro one. I know that as an individual I have the tools to make my dreams reality but as a person part of a society I see how the current system is fucking the little guy.
    There's one sentence that's always stood out to me from my political theory class. A society should be judged by the circumstances of the least of us not the best of us.
     
  5. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    Well, on the macro level, I believe the effects to be as I mentioned earlier. Businesses exist to provide a return to shareholders. Businesses make business decisions and middle class wage earners expect that they won't be affected by the marketplace, by global competition, by recessions.

    All those concepts of upward mobility went out the window in the sixties, when the U.S. was the supreme marketplace and we competed only against one another. The time for nostalgia is over. Wake up and realize that we're in the middle of globalization, in competition with the world now.

    Those are unrealistic expectations in society today, whether good or bad. Nothing is guaranteed. If you want a guarantee then build something yourself or understand that your middle class job is contingent on fortunes beyond your control.

    Btw, that quote has all the earmarks of socialist philosophy, just saying. We live in a capitalistic society, with a quote that would probably be, A society should be judged by the capability of those who are able to rise to the top.
     
  6. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    We can control some level of fairness. Btw this whole idea of globalization isn't anything new. I liked it better when it was global conquest. Now instead of martial weapons there are economic ones but it wont be long before we go back to brute forcem we never learn.
     
  7. LA

    LA Well-Known Member

    I'd like to know more about what it is that you chose to do in life besides the typical 9-5 job. I too, plan on venturing away from an employer and employing myself through a medium which will allow me to do so.

    Maybe I can e-mail you and share some information back and forth.
     
  8. swirlman07

    swirlman07 Well-Known Member

    My point was to never be afraid to manage your own career. If you aren't getting the experiences that you want, don't be afraid to move. I never threatened employers and begged for promotions of assignments. I knew what I wanted. I always had faith in my abilities, and I never listened to them, I listened to myself as a gauge of my potential. I left companies when they didn't present the opportunities I felt I needed to grow and get to where I thought I deserved to be.

    But, in any case, feel free to write and I'm always happy to share my "lesson's learned", whether in life or corporate America.
     

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