1. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Let's not act like people don't hate on Justin Bieber too.
    They may not call him a thug, but they do call him a punk, a faggot and a gangsta-rapper wannabe. :rolleyes:

    Bieber hasn't been America's gold child since he was a tween.
     
  2. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    i don't agree with you on that at all...have you been watching the news? the media channels are comparing beiber with dead popstars...meaning if he continues on this path he will be dead...period...end of story
     
  3. Morning Star

    Morning Star Well-Known Member

    The point being, a guy like Sherman, who has an impeccable life track record is being called something that he's clearly not. That word is associated with people who look or share features perceived to be thuggish.

    And don't get me wrong, Bieber can be compared to people like MJ or even craptacular Elvis Presley, but he still has his millions, his fans, but despite the criminal record, he's still referred to as a misguided kid and it's all because he doesn't "look" thuggish.

     
  4. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    If you're a White guy who doesn't look like he could whup someone's ass, you'll never be referred to as a 'thug' unless you're a straight up criminal who's packing.

    Sherman may not fit the textbook definition of a thug, but Justin Bieber really doesn't either.

    For instance, everyone refers to Aaron Hernandez as a thug, and rightly so.

    I will say that Richard Sherman has a thuggish personality on the football field. He should own it.
     
  5. DonnyJ

    DonnyJ Banned

    Hernandez isn't white.
     
  6. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    point1-how is it any different? tb vs sherman. if anything sherman was more understandable because it was a simple trash talk rather then brady following a ref and harassing him. brady was caught on the same television camera it wasn't a fan video. the distinction you mean was a muscular black man showing emotion in front of a white woman. two cardinal sins in america. bs call? your response proves my point and contradict yourself. i thought in the heat of battle he is supposed to give a canned answer like we will get them next time.

    point2- what do you mean earn his stripes? i don't care about his incident or sherman's. all i'm calling out is the racialized bias in the media.

    point3-the nfl yes,run by a hypocrite republican commish and his greedy theif owners.

    point4- it was the heat of the moment. erin and fox wanted real emotion and they got it. it didn't take away from anything because the seahawks still are going to the sb and the media is just using this as an excuse to push a holier than thou approach. they just want to push their white hope narrative, peyton manning down ppl's throat. they have their bogeyman. and bonus he is black.

    who cares about a brand? maybe he does for all we know but branding has only brought a class of atheletes like jordan, woods, and kobe who have no political awareness and sold out for money.
     
  7. TERRASTAR18

    TERRASTAR18 Well-Known Member

    exactly! ppl forget the nfl spent most of 2013 trying to cover up their reports on concussions.
     
  8. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    Sherman was fined $7875.00 by the NFL for taunting Crabtree after his game winning play
     
  9. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    The fine is actually for the 'choking' gesture he made to Kaepernick.
     
  10. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Aaron Hernandez is being held without bail on suspicion of multiple murders.
    You think people are calling him a thug because he's Hispanic??lol:smt104
     
  11. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    Multiple homicides =/= talking loudly during an interview that takes place two minutes after a tense playoff game.
     
  12. Sirius Dogon

    Sirius Dogon New Member

    The Word "Thug" Was Uttered 625 Times On TV On Monday. That's A Lot.

    http://regressing.deadspin.com/the-word-thug-was-uttered-625-times-on-tv-yesterday-1506098319

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    The word "thug" has been used so many times by the same sort of people about the same sort of thing that it's no longer even accurate to call it code—it's really more of a shorthand. It means a black guy who makes white folks a little more uncomfortable than they prefer. On Sunday night, Richard Sherman made a lot of people uncomfortable. Then on Monday, people said thug on TV more often than on any other day in the past three years.

    The numbers here come from iQ Media1, and they're based on every closed caption that ran in every market in the country over the past three years. As you can see above, Monday was more "thug"-heavy than any day in the past few years. iQ Media says 625 "thug"s across all markets, while competing service TVEyes says 524 so far today, but just 269 yesterday. Both have today and yesterday as massive spikes. ESPN, to its credit, appears to be on the hook for just two "thugs" all of yesterday. CBS was the overall leader by iQ's count, but that number is slightly inflated because of a mention on the national broadcast of the creatively bereft ratings graveyard Intelligence, which went out to a bunch of local affiliates.

    Looking at the national numbers loses the local color, but dodges the affiliate/national complications. Here's how those look:

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    Here, Richard Sherman is beaten out by John Kerry, who on August 29, 2013, called Bashar al-Assad a "thug." Sit on that one for a minute.

    (One question we wanted to address is if the Beats by Dre commercial featuring Richard Sherman factors into this, since it contains the word thug, but isn't an actual program. It doesn't; these numbers are gathered from closed captioning, and Beats commercials aren't captioned. We ran searches for multiple portions of the dialogue to be sure, but overall, only massive companies like Chevy or McDonald's typically caption their commercials. So in that respect, there's no finger on the scale.)

    For individual local markets, here's how mentions break down over the past 24 hours (5:12 p.m. EST):

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    Richard Sherman was a flashpoint—and a damn good one—but the way pundits talk about athletes isn't isolated to big, ugly days. So, beyond yesterday, who are the repeat offenders here? It's pretty much the folks you'd expect. Below is the three-month breakdown for the shows that use "thug" most frequently. We've also included mentions of pundit favorite "knucklehead" (in yellow). The "Most Relevant Coverage" section is a list of shows using "thug" most frequently.

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    Hi, Skip.

    Others have moved on to "knucklehead," which, anecdotally at least, seems to have supplanted "thug" as the pundit's epithet of choice. While it lacks "thug"'s imputation of menace and violence, "knucklehead" at least carries a certain air of dismissiveness; it also sounds softer, like something Mr. Wilson would say to Dennis the Menace, though it's used to describe even the likes of Aaron Hernandez.

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  13. Mikey

    Mikey Well-Known Member

    Why is that standard not applied to white people who act the same way, AB?The thing is, is that Chris Christie is the same way, yet he is getting a pass from some people for the way he acts. White people can do things that black people cant. For instance, there's the stereotype of the "angry black man", why isn't there a stereotype of the "angry white man"?

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  14. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Some of you aren't familiar with Richard Sherman's act. This isn't a one time incident with him. He's always taunting his opponents, always trying to instigate some kind of drama on the football field.

    In fact it's the entire Seattle Seahawks football team. They push and shove and get in their opponents' faces after the whistle more than any team in the league. From a football standpoint, when it looks like your team would rather FIGHT than PLAY football, you're gonna get called a thug.

    Sherman enjoys being booed too IMO. But he's never gotten the grief from the national media that he usually does for talking crap about an opponent after a game.

    Richard Sherman is the #1 trash talker in the NFL and probably the one guy most NFL players hate the most.

    This isn't about race at all. Most NFL fans are tired of this guy's act because he talks much shit ALL THE TIME. Now he's whining because fans and mediots are calling him a 'thug'??
    Well, that's how he acts...on the field.

    Once he takes off his pads and is in civilian mode, Richard Sherman is that dude from Stanford.

    But on game days, he's a purebred asshole who talks way too much.

    LOL at people defending this guy for getting flak for all this negativity he brought on himself.

    Know who you're talking about before you decide a guy is the victim of unfair labeling or bigoted persecution.

    When Richard Sherman was on ESPN's First Take a while ago, he got mad at one of the show hosts who was criticizing his act. This is how 'innocent' Richard Sherman responded;

    • "Whenever you refer to me, whenever you speak to me, whenever you address me, address me as All-Pro Stanford graduate because those are some accomplishments you will aspire to but never accomplish. You have never accomplished anything."



    • "In my 24 years of life, I'm better at life than you."


    • "I'm intelligent enough and capable enough to understand that you are ignorant, pompous, egotistical, cretin. I'm going to crush you on here because I'm tired of hearing about it."





    What set Richard Sherman off on ESPN?? He was challenged on his assertion that he was the best cornerback in the NFL, better than even Darrelle Revis. Instead of defending his statement, Richard Sherman went into full meltdown mode and verbally attacked the host.


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    BTW there are thugs out here with PhDs and wearing two-piece suits. Bullies are thugs too in my book.
    Richard Sherman may be more high brow about it, but his act is total thug; beating other people down to lift himself up.
     
  15. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Nobody respects or cares for Skip Bayless.... Sounds like your the one who's unfamiliar.
     
  16. lippy

    lippy Well-Known Member

    i have never seen stephen smith wince so much and not have anything to say:smt043

    great information!
     
  17. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member


    Bayless is a blowhard, but all he did was challenge 2nd year player Richard Sherman why he thought he was better than Darrelle Revis? Nothing insulting about asking another man to be accountable for something THEY said.

    Sherman was the one who decided to personally attack the host.

    Again, Sherman is one of those guys who loves to talk shit but hates it when you call him on it.:smt022
     
  18. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    SMH

    Who answers somebody they clearly don't respect? Jeez if your going make an example or a point, make it a good one. Before Skip even asked anything Sherman was already going in on him.

    Again nobody respects Skip, you'll find a bunch of clips of Youtube clips of various athletes, entertainers, and even team owners all in agreeance that Skip is utterly useless.

    If taunting and talking smack is thuggish behavior to you, don't even watch football being that nearly each n every player engages in it.

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    That host was looking hot and bothered by Charles dropping knowledge bombs.
     
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  19. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    What did Bayless do that was disrespectful??
    Was Sherman forced at gunpoint to go on First Take??

    I don't respect a lot of people, it doesn't mean I talk down to them whenever I open my mouth.

    What's weird about Sherman is he wants to be respected because he graduated from Stanford, but he lacks the social poise and awareness I'd expect from someone with that background.

    He's totally clueless how his behavior and actions are interpreted by others.

    People think BOTH Bayless and Steven A. Smith are worthless on air sports personalities. That's opinion, it's not fact. If you don't agree with what they have to say, fine. But those guys are giving their informed, educated opinions every morning. I could give a damn about their 'style'.

    Charles Barkley is an idiot. Don't post any YT clips of him trying to sound intelligent.

    On the one hand he's saying thug is the new nigger(because Sherman said so.) The next minute he's saying he and his grown-ass friends still use the N-word and will continue to keep doing it.:???:

    Everything about Sherman's game is thug. The way he grabs and holds WRs, the way talks more shit than any player in the league. He literally tries to physically and psychologically intimidate his opponents. It's beyond trash talking. I wouldn't describe him as a thug. I'd call Sherman an asshole/punk bitch. But I understand why some think he's a thug on the football field.

    The Seahawks style of play on defense as a matter of fact is thug; they're trying to get their opponents to swing at them during the game by pushing and shoving after the whistle.

    Thug originally was a term from India taken from the Thugee cult in the 19th century that strangled unsuspecting travelers.
    Later, the Mafia became most associated with the word thug; someone who was an enforcer and collected debts by breaking people's kneecaps.

    Since most rappers wanna be gangsters, we all heard 'thug life' worn out to death in the '90s and early 2000s.

    Thug became a general term for a violent criminal. Then in sports, thug became a bully. But thug is not the new nigger.


    If you let Richard Sherman run that game on you, you're being bamboozled.

    I bet if you call him a punk, he's gonna accuse you of using a homophobic slur against him.lol

    All Sherman does is bob and weave, like this is the first time he's done this shit.

    If Crabtree had caught that TD, then immediately after the play Crabs went up to Sherman and offered to shake his hand and tell him 'good game', would people expect Sherman to shake it?? Hell no, and most folks would think Crab was trying to clown Sherman after the fact.

    Please Broncos win this game!! I wanna see Sherman crying on national TV.:smt036
     
  20. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, but I can't take anybody who sides with Skip Bayless seriously.

    Whatever legit argument you may have had about Sherman went off of the rails in your last few posts.
     

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