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4th person from Florida sheriff’s office dies from coronavirus
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4th person from Florida sheriff’s office dies from coronavirus
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A bit of both..I'm new to this thread. @Bliss , is the complaint that no one should have to wear a mask or socially distance because it doesn't help? Or is it that no one should have to wear a mask or socially distance because they just don't want to wear a mask or socially distance?
I legit wanna understand your position and the reasoning for it. School me!![]()

I don't believe the flash outbreak stories anymore. I think the mainstream media is exaggerating or inflating the counts to influence the election.As we get closer to the start of month FIVE of mandatory mask wearing here in Illinois, I'd love to know what their end game is in all of this.
Like my brother said: we're never going to see phase 5 at this point.
I'm all doom and gloom about this, but I doubt we'll ever get to phase 5 and never have to wear a mask again.
I was kind of behind the mask thing when it started May 1st. But, as the months dragged on with no end in sight, I don't see how this isn't political anymore. We gave the politicians an inch and now they're taking a mile.
What y'all think these Daily Quick tests?:
https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1294698827694452736
It depends on how much common sense you think people have. A negative test doesn't necessarily mean negative but a positive test means you need to quarantine yourself or at least get tested by a professional.
Negative means keep proceeding with caution but if you're not being cautious to begin with it's not much of a help.
The FDA probably thinks people don't have common sense. What do you think?
Great, but the important factor is making sure people who test at home actually stay home if their test is positive. I can already picture people ignoring the results and going out anyway.
North suburban-based Abbott Labs says it has received FDA approval for its new COVID-19 antigen test which delivers results in about 15 minutes.
President Donald Trump plans to unveil a major expansion of rapid coronavirus testing on Thursday, according to three individuals familiar with the upcoming announcement.
Trump will announce that the administration has struck a $750 million deal to acquire 150 million tests from Abbott Laboratories, which the individuals said are set to be deployed in nursing homes, schools and other areas with populations at high risk.
Abbott received an emergency authorization from the FDA on Wednesday for the rapid test, which costs $5 and can produce results in 15 minutes without the use of any lab equipment. Abbott has said that it will be able to produce about 50 million tests per month by October.
The move would represent a significant expansion of the nation's coronavirus testing, which has experienced frequent bottlenecks in recent months that prevented rapid turnaround of test results. The United States has tested about 22 million people in the last month.
LOL, that's bullshit. Last time I checked Mexico was having their own issues with the Pandemic, so much so that illegals are crossing the border to get healthcare in the U.S. which is a factor why these border states been having spikes in cases this Summer.Whatever makes people feel better about living in a deranged country.
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Now that I think of it, I think that the Meme was made back in the 2008 recession and just didn't age well. Anyway this country is better off overall than Mexico which isn't saying much because we have 1st world money and suck ass compared to first World countries.LOL, that's bullshit. Last time I checked Mexico was having their own issues with the Pandemic, so much so that illegals are crossing the border to get healthcare in the U.S. which is a factor why these border states been having spikes in cases this Summer.
I don't believe the flash outbreak stories anymore. I think the mainstream media is exaggerating or inflating the counts to influence the election.
I got tested (required for a doc appointment) and it was the most horrific experience of my life!!, lol. I almost cried like a baby. That shit HURTS!! And the pain STAYS with you!
Thanks for the reply. I'll say I agree with two out of three of those lol. I guess we disagree on mask wearing. Not so much on a "right to wear or not" level. I just think of it as being considerate of those who might get sick, a tiny sacrifice to make.A bit of both..
I think we've given up way too much liberty, way of life, freedoms and income for this virus.
This here pretty much sums up how l feel ATM...
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Scott Atlas was added to President Trump's Coronavirus Task Force this month, and he quickly took center stage alongside the president. While he lacks the infectious-disease credentials of task force coordinator Deborah Birx, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases head Anthony Fauci or Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Atlas has a long history as a top health policy expert at the Hoover Institute at Stanford University. Perhaps even more important, he brings a fresh perspective to approaching the pandemic.
Atlas was a senior health adviser for Republican presidential candidates in 2008, 2012 and 2016, as well as for members of Congress. At the Hoover Institution, he focuses on public-private partnerships in health care, innovation and the impact of biotechnology and incorporating economic factors to derive practical solutions. He is co-director of Hoover's "Socialism and Free Market Capitalism: The Human Prosperity Project."
He has appeared with me on "Doctor Radio Reports" on SiriusXM, where he presented himself as an anti-fear-monger, a non-alarmist who bases his views on logic and data. Nevertheless, his background as a non-virologist who is no longer seeing patients has left him subject to some media attacks. This seems completely unfair. There already are several respected virologists on the task force, but not enough health policy or public health experts.
Dr. Atlas is the editor of a leading textbook in the medical field, "Magnetic Resonance Imaging of the Brain and Spine." He ran Stanford's neuroradiology department for many years and trained some of our country's best radiologists. The critical thinking involved in that task is hardly irrelevant to assessing today's pandemic. Keep in mind that, as a top neuroradiologist, Atlas was trained — and has trained others — to perform a sober analysis of an image based on complex pattern recognition; he has brought this ability to his career in health policy. The rationality needed to examine potential brain cancer without emotion also is essential to fight the fear and hysteria that has shrouded COVID-19. A great neuroradiologist can quickly tell you the difference on an MRI between a stroke and an abscess, or a malignant versus a benign tumor. Since the results alter lives, the radiologist must be extremely meticulous.
One of Atlas's peers and a colleague of mine agrees. "Throughout our friendship of more than 35 years, Dr. Atlas has always impressed with his strong expertise in analyzing public health challenges and developing concrete solutions that are based on science and data, the cornerstones of any legitimate response to COVID or other health issues," says Robert I. Grossman, M.D., dean and CEO of NYU Langone Health and a fellow world-renowned neuroradiologist. Dr. Grossman believes Atlas "will contribute significantly to these efforts."
With the same kinds of accuracy and precision as he has used in medicine and health policy, Atlas has helped to distinguish between burgeoning new case numbers of COVID-19 in Florida, Texas and California and the fact that the death rate has not been climbing. He has noted that children tend to have much milder cases and that our public health priority should remain to protect those most at risk. This analysis seemed prescient when, this past Monday, the number of new cases in Florida dropped to 2,678 with 87 deaths and, on Tuesday, new cases remained below 4,000.
When it comes to masks, Atlas has echoed President Trump's position that masks are especially important "if you aren't able to social-distance or if you are in proximity to a high-risk individual." The goal, according to Atlas, is "stopping the deaths by protecting the high-risk people. Preventing hospital overcrowding while you safely reopen society."
Recent studies have connected using masks with the decreased transmission of coronavirus in health care workers as well as in large populations, but this is still not complete proof.
Though he, too, believes in masks, Atlas's focus has been more about the excessive emotions in play, saying that masks have been "highlighted and sensationalized ... way out of proportion." This is a bold, relevant perspective.
In a larger sense, Atlas is concerned with the major role that fear has played in public messaging throughout the pandemic. "It's stemming from a massive amount of fear bordering on hysteria. And this is a real problem because public policy is supposed to be taking into consideration not just stopping COVID-19 at all costs but understanding the impact on people of what you do and what you say. And that's been a failure of some of the people who are speaking out on this … we need to live in a rational world, and we need to show people that we use critical thinking …. the reality is, there are reasons to wear a mask."
Dr. Atlas has a calm approach, one that relies on data analysis and reasoning. And if he is accused of under-reacting, there is certainly plenty of saber-rattling around to balance him out. So far, he appears to be working well with the virologists, including Dr. Fauci and has done his best to integrate with the team.
Damn did I just say that?When the Oxford vaccine gets here I'll consider only if it's approved by the MHRA. Can't trust the FDA while Donny is president. He really needs to be voted out. We don't need air headed politicians politicizing medicine.