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Wrong Analogy. Ukrainians are defending against Russians who invaded their country.

On the correct hand,
Russians have been protesting Putin in their Capital for 4 days for his illegal invasion.
In response, Putin has arrested and jailed over 1,000 protesters.

That's ^ the proper analogy.
 
The problem is that, even if there is evidence of stuffed ballot boxes, ballots don't count towards vote totals until they have actually been counted. Ballot boxes don't count ballots, people (or other specifically designed machines do). Plus, there are extremely complex safeguards to prevent against the very same thing this movie claims to have actually happened. I can put a McDonald's wrapper in a ballot box, but it doesn't mean that Mayor McCheese is going to get sworn in anytime soon.

And on top of that, if the Presidential election is somehow invalidated because of voter fraud, then so is every other election because they're all on the exact same ballot. $20 says that this film has absolutely nothing to say about that.

Yeah...don't get your hopes up for this one.
Every other election won't necessarily be invalidated because in several swing States, there was massive undervoting.
 
Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave right now. His party is openly kissing up to and making excuses for dictators. How any rational and free-thinking American can support or even defend this, I have zero idea.

Agreed! There's no way anyone can be a free thinker

We can add college educated (especially from Ivy League schools), everyone who's not heterosexual, and...with all of that hating somehow they're christians. Can't make it up, lol
 
Every other election won't necessarily be invalidated because in several swing States, there was massive undervoting.

He's talking about all the down ballot candidates on the presidential ballot. If the presidential ballot was invalid, so were the votes for Senators and congresspeople on the same ballot.

Funny how there were Republicans who won in 2016 on the same ballot, except Trump.
 
Every other election won't necessarily be invalidated because in several swing States, there was massive undervoting.
He's talking about all the down ballot candidates on the presidential ballot. If the presidential ballot was invalid, so were the votes for Senators and congresspeople on the same ballot.

Funny how there were Republicans who won in 2016 on the same ballot, except Trump.

Pretty much. This also includes absentee ballots in many states, Georgia for example. I voted early and in person (which a lot of states count as absentee) and every single race up for election was on the ballot, from the Presidency down to local races. Unless Democrats somehow managed/decided to only "steal" the presidency and not bother with the House, Senate, or local races, and that makes absolutely zero sense given how any operation big and complicated enough to attempt to steal one election wouldn't also try to steal the others as well.

Pulling this off would have taken the cooperation of thousands of people, at the local, state, and federal levels, in states all across the country, from the rust belt to the southwest, in both political parties. In both Georgia and Arizona, the respective Secretaries of State are Republicans, which means that they both would have had to actively sabotage their own parties at the ballot box in order to help Democrats get elected. And they would have been taking the massive risk of being caught, with absolutely nothing to gain if they pulled it off.

And it would require everyone involved to remain quiet about the entire operation. And they would have to remain quiet for not only the months leading up to the election, but in the years afterwards.

If Democrats really did steal the election, Mitch McConnell would not be in the Senate right now. Nor would Ted Cruz, or Marjorie Taylor Greene, or a bunch of other Republicans. Every single race that leaned D or was considered to be a toss-up, would have been taken by a Democrat. There's zero point in having the presidency if you don't have large enough majorities in Congress to accomplish your agenda.
 
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He's talking about all the down ballot candidates on the presidential ballot. If the presidential ballot was invalid, so were the votes for Senators and congresspeople on the same ballot.

Funny how there were Republicans who won in 2016 on the same ballot, except Trump.
Pretty much. This also includes absentee ballots in many states, Georgia for example. I voted early and in person (which a lot of states count as absentee) and every single race up for election was on the ballot, from the Presidency down to local races. Unless Democrats somehow managed/decided to only "steal" the presidency and not bother with the House, Senate, or local races, and that makes absolutely zero sense given how any operation big and complicated enough to attempt to steal one election wouldn't also try to steal the others as well.

Pulling this off would have taken the cooperation of thousands of people, at the local, state, and federal levels, in states all across the country, from the rust belt to the southwest, in both political parties. In both Georgia and Arizona, the respective Secretaries of State are Republicans, which means that they both would have had to actively sabotage their own parties at the ballot box in order to help Democrats get elected. And they would have been taking the massive risk of being caught, with absolutely nothing to gain if they pulled it off.

And it would require everyone involved to remain quiet about the entire operation. And they would have to remain quiet for not only the months leading up to the election, but in the years afterwards.

If Democrats really did steal the election, Mitch McConnell would not be in the Senate right now. Nor would Ted Cruz, or Marjorie Taylor Greene, or a bunch of other Republicans. Every single race that leaned D or was considered to be a toss-up, would have been taken by a Democrat. There's zero point in having the presidency if you don't have large enough majorities in Congress to accomplish your agenda.
I know what he meant. I countered that there was a huge number of undervotes, ska no down ballot votes. Just the Presidential nominee's name was chosen, the rest ignored.
 
I know what he meant. I countered that there was a huge number of undervotes, ska no down ballot votes. Just the Presidential nominee's name was chosen, the rest ignored.

You still aren't making any sense. If you're going to steal the presidency through the vote, you need to steal seats in the House and Senate too.
The undervote in 2016 was from 1.7 million voters, per the Washington Post, casting votes for everyone on the ballot EXCEPT the presidential candidates.

Those were mostly Republicans who could never vote for Biden but wouldn't vote for Trump either.
 
He's talking about all the down ballot candidates on the presidential ballot. If the presidential ballot was invalid, so were the votes for Senators and congresspeople on the same ballot.

Funny how there were Republicans who won in 2016 on the same ballot, except Trump.
Shows that certain politicians think the voting public are stupid. Those politicians may be correct.
 
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