Respect where it's due: BM/WW IR in History

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She looks captivated lol. Or is a better word choice “enthralled”? By a black pied piper? Lol
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Seriously though, that's exactly what 'enthralled' looks like. LOL
 
I learned so much history from this and appreciate those who chose to leave behind love and positivity in the world. It's crazy how many have passed on, since the beginning of this discussion. Pop culture continues to be a most useful tool to help bring awareness to social issues and breakdown negative views. I'm glad to know that some folks are still making history and adding wins to this list everyday.
 
SilverSmith said:
Heavyweight boxing champion Joe Louis once proclaimed that he would never associate with White women as his predecessor Jack Johnson had done. Yet, he had secret relationships with actress Lana Turner, Norwegian figure skater Sonja Henie, and Mae West.


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He mentioned that in his book in the 70's. His trainer/manager taught him not to act like Jack Johnson.
 
1870's Interracial Couples


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According to U.S. Census records, there were 80 interracial couples living in Manhattan's Eighth Ward in 1870. Most of the couples were black men married to Irish women writes Rachel L. Swarns for The New York Times, "After Deadly Draft Riots, a Shared Experience Reshaped Families in Manhattan".

''We have this sense that racism is so rigid, that color consciousness is so rigid, Dr. [Marcy] Sacks said. 'These stories remind us that we are human first.'
Over the generations, the voices of these couples have been lost. No letters, diaries or photographs have been found. (Many of the women and some of the men were illiterate.) Many questions remain: How did the families withstand the pressures of a society that viewed interracial marriages as unnatural and immoral? How were they viewed by the elite and the working class in the black community? What did parents tell their mixed-race children about the relations between Irish immigrants and African-Americans?"


Source: Brooklyn Historical Society

 
Pace v. Alabama, 106 U.S. 583 (1883)

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In 1881, Mary Cox, a white woman, and Tony Pace, a black man, were arrested in Alabama for the “crime” of being in a relationship. The state’s anti-miscegenation law made it illegal for a black person and a white person to live together outside of marriage, and the following year, in 1882, both were sentenced to two years in the state penitentiary.

Pace took his case all the way to the Supreme Court, and it became Pace v. Alabama (1883). The Court sided with the state. Its reasoning was that since both partners got the same punishment, the law treated everyone equally, a technicality that let these laws stand for decades. It wasn’t until Loving v. Virginia in 1967 that the Supreme Court finally struck them down.


Source: Library of Congress
 
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Pace v. Alabama, 106 U.S. 583 (1883)

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In 1881, Mary Cox, a white woman, and Tony Pace, a Black man, were arrested in Alabama for the “crime” of being in a relationship. The state’s anti-miscegenation law made it illegal for a Black person and a white person to live together outside of marriage, and the following year, in 1882, both were sentenced to two years in the state penitentiary. Cox and Pace weren’t charged with hurting anyone. They were punished for who they loved.

Pace took his case all the way to the Supreme Court, and it became Pace v. Alabama (1883). Sadly, the Court sided with the state. Its reasoning was that since both partners got the same punishment, the law treated everyone equally, a technicality that let these laws stand for decades. It wasn’t until Loving v. Virginia in 1967 that the Supreme Court finally struck them down.


Source: Library of Congress
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And just think we have IR cosplaying clown asses who voted to bring this type of shit back.
 
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The Case Against Emiline Haines


In 1862, Emiline Haines, a white woman, was sentenced to eighteen months in the Maryland penitentiary for having sex with Mathew Ward, a black man. The case was reported in the Carroll County Democrat on April 17, 1862, and was heard in the Circuit Court for Carroll County.

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Newspaper: The Carroll County Democrat
Publication Date: April 17th, 1862
Town: Westminster, MD
County: Carroll



 
SilverSmith said:
1870's Interracial Couples


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According to U.S. Census records, there were 80 interracial couples living in Manhattan's Eighth Ward in 1870. Most of the couples were black men married to Irish women writes Rachel L. Swarns for The New York Times, "After Deadly Draft Riots, a Shared Experience Reshaped Families in Manhattan".

''We have this sense that racism is so rigid, that color consciousness is so rigid, Dr. [Marcy] Sacks said. 'These stories remind us that we are human first.'
Over the generations, the voices of these couples have been lost. No letters, diaries or photographs have been found. (Many of the women and some of the men were illiterate.) Many questions remain: How did the families withstand the pressures of a society that viewed interracial marriages as unnatural and immoral? How were they viewed by the elite and the working class in the black community? What did parents tell their mixed-race children about the relations between Irish immigrants and African-Americans?"


Source: Brooklyn Historical Society
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That revelation doesn't surprise me; as Irish immigrants were treated horribly as formerly enslaved Black Americans were when they first immigrated here. That's also where one of the meanings for the term "Black Irish" comes from.
 
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James Earl Jones and Cecilia Hart

James Earl Jones and Cecilia Hart met on the set of the CBS police drama Paris (1979-1980), where he played Captain Woody Paris and she played Sgt. Stacey Erickson. They later co-starred in Othello on stage and married in 1982. They had one child together, a son named Flynn Earl Jones.

Hart died on October 16, 2016, in Westport, Connecticut, after a year-long battle with ovarian cancer. Jones died on September 9, 2024.




 
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SilverSmith said:
Pace v. Alabama, 106 U.S. 583 (1883)

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In 1881, Mary Cox, a white woman, and Tony Pace, a black man, were arrested in Alabama for the “crime” of being in a relationship. The state’s anti-miscegenation law made it illegal for a black person and a white person to live together outside of marriage, and the following year, in 1882, both were sentenced to two years in the state penitentiary.

Pace took his case all the way to the Supreme Court, and it became Pace v. Alabama (1883). The Court sided with the state. Its reasoning was that since both partners got the same punishment, the law treated everyone equally, a technicality that let these laws stand for decades. It wasn’t until Loving v. Virginia in 1967 that the Supreme Court finally struck them down.


Source: Library of Congress
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Learned something every day!
 
darkcurry said:
Great and unfortunately sad stories. And yet people always want to use negativity to downplay and shame BM/WW couples. These were true love stories that dared happened in the face of hate.
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One could imagine the WW/BM relationships that happened in secret in the US. No rigid culture could stop them.
 
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