TRUMP Thread

Yeah you're right I sound like a hypocrite, so let me back up a smidge and explain. Kamala Harris is biracial just like Obama. What I meant to say was Kamala Harris's success doesn't feel like a step up for black people in the same way that Obama's election did. I don't know, maybe it's her record as a prosecutor, maybe it's her backdoor coronation as the heir apparent, maybe it's the phony pandering BS (like her debunked weed-smoking story) or maybe I'm just unfairly judging her due to some underlying gender bias, I don't know. Whatever it is, when people act as if black people should embrace her as the next black pioneer, I can't help but to pause and ask myself, is she though?

 

I respect the criticism just please dial it back on the low key xenophobia. Since this ADOS thing popped up a lot of black people with Caribbean and more recent African heritage are being treated like we aren't actually even though our lived experience is identical to those who went through American slavery. We face the exact same discriminations and its weird when people say someone like Kamala isn't black because her dad is Jamaican. Does anyone doubt if she weren't Kamala Harris as we know here she'd be abused and used by the system like any other black person?
I agree with her record being trash and they are going to misread this moment once again by putting identity before policy. Maybe she'll actually listen and do right by the people

 

Xenophobia was not part of the equation, pointing out that her father was Jamaican wasn't a knock on her blackness, I was just being overly descriptive of her heritage, sorry for the confusion. Although I don't necessarily agree that she would have been treated like any other black person, because if she wanted to lean into her Indian heritage, she would have been able to navigate things just that much easier than black people are able to do.

On a side note, as a person with a rainbow of races in my family, I have always maintained the personal idea that race was a two verification concept. What people see you as, and what you see yourself as. After all, my fair-skinned blue-eyed grandmother was a"black woman" because she lived a black life, married a black man, and raised her children as black people, but if her life had gone another direction she might have "passed" and lived a completely different life.

 

Think again. Obama was as boring a politician as you could imagine other than his skin color and all they could cry about was his tan suit, Michelle's bare arms, and them flying around in "their" Air Force One. Plus Obama is gay and Michelle is a man. The US has been flying drones since Bush/Cheney but that's all "progressives" can cry about when it comes to BHO. The media is complicit. When it's boring get some leftist on TV to bitch about Democrats and never Republicans. Nope white people want all this confusion, it's blacks who want stability if voting results are to be believed

 

Because voters were spooked by socialist talk. The GOP tried to wrap Bernie/AOC baggage around mainstream Dems' necks, that's the result. You are correct we'd better autopsy this election correctly.

 

Kamala is just like Meghan Markle in that she doesn't look like 98% of the black women who live vicariously through them. Your suspicion is well-founded, Kamala is only situationally "Black." She will shift towards immigrant issues in the weeks ahead leaving African-Americans, again mostly women, holding the bag.

 

Acknowledge his good deeds? Here's a thought... Perhaps, I don't feel he's done much in the way of good deeds. In fact, I feel his action on some things, and inaction on others were bad deeds. Ignoring the good is immature, huh? How about ignoring the bad, and he's had plenty? Is that immature, denial or what? I'm obviously happy he lost, and clearly I'm not alone given the results not to mention the massive amounts of celebrations that took place yesterday. For some odd reason it seems that you may feel that we see the Biden/Harris victory as some sort of second coming when I haven't seen anything here, nor have I heard from anyone to suggest that we have a dream team of sorts in Biden/Harris. However, we're optimistic, and happy to see the current clan leave.

Exactly! Of course we had the.. "I alone can fix it", which was the beginning of the clusterfuck that I'm so thankful is about to leave.

 

Please stop spreading misinformation. Bernie was leading he won Nevada by landslide. Why is that if he weren't popular? Why would he have record breaking individual donations if he weren't popular fam?
Until Klobuchar and Butigeg dropped out he was the clear favorite. What's the explanation there?

 

I was about to type this out but you beat me to it. The only way that you can even pretend that this country was somehow more unified under Trump than less unified is if you ignore the things that he says and does. Rage-tweeting lies, misinformation, and conspiracy theories does not unify the country. And his ridiculous, child-like name calling and insults sure as hell didn't unify us, either. Mature, adult, responsible, competent leaders don't resort to name calling and complaining every time that they don't get their way. Why Trump supporters keep trying to defend that behavior, I honestly don't understand.

I swear to God, Trump supporters are the kings of cherry picking. "If you ignore all the bad things he's said and done, he hasn't said or done anything bad!" The shit is mind boggling.

 

And you know what Obama said in response to all of that bullshit? Absolutely nothing. Obama didn't complain about the "fake news media" when they criticized him about something. He didn't spend hours on Twitter complaining about "badly-run republican red states" the way that Trump complained about blue states because they didn't bend down and kiss the ring. Hell, when people made fun of Bush for eight years, he did exactly the same thing: nothing. Clinton before that? The same thing, and they went in on him about Monica Lewinsky.

You know the biggest difference between those three presidents (hell, we can even throw in H.W. Bush and Reagan for good measure)? They actually treated the job of being president as an actual job, and not as a position to air out whatever bullshit personal grievances that they think they had with the critics. When the president is a stable, competent, mature adult who isn't triggered by a stiff breeze, the country is much better off as a result.

 

There was an overwhelming sigh of relief as they announced the election results. If Trump does not concede by January 19th, I hope the authorities drag the tyrannical schmuck from the Oval Office by his hair.

 

Trump is an isolationist. He'd rather watch the world burn before deciding the USA get involved. I don't know if that's the best foreign policy strategy, turning over the rest of the globe to the world's bad actors.

Ask an American farmer if Trump has been good for agricultural trade. And Trump's 'new' trade policies aren't that much different than the old ones.
What endless wars did Obama/Biden or Bill Clinton start??? And why did Trump sign $700 billion for our military's budget, if he's against our military's global expansion??

Biden and Obama SAVED our country's economy from a Depression, they didn't start one. The U.S. economy tends to thrive under Democrats.
COVID19 is going nowhere soon, you're just repeating the rantings of our former POTUS. Biden listens to scientists, not his ego, that's why his response to COVID19 will be more effective.

Ask yourself why nearly all of our allies are celebrating that Trump will no longer be in office. That's literally never happened before.
There's shit that's going to come out about your beloved POTUS that's going to make your head explode.
We had a traitor running this country for 4 years and half of us had no idea.

 

It won't matter. Conceding an election is like shaking hands after losing a football game: even if you're salty about losing and decide to be a poor sport, it doesn't change the actual outcome.

 

Agreed! They totally ignore piles of his shit then come back with some crap about he's not perfect, loves America etc. What an understatement for what's easily the most flawed and stupid person to fall into the presidency. Can't make it up.

 

I'm referring to conceding in the broader sense, as in recognizing the result of the election, packing up and clearing the premises.