TRUMP Thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Blacktiger2005, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. Paniro188

    Paniro188 Active Member

    I'm pretty sure I didn't make myself clear here.
     
  2. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Twenty bucks says he made that entire phone call on the toilet. I'd normally say he was unhinged but that word isn't anywhere strong enough.
     
  3. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Disagree with ya. China were not. They let him roam.
    Which is why l stated that a fed up Trump put the boot on China's neck to reign Rocket Man in.

    And just look who advised him it was time to get tough... Lol, one guess..

    Here...

    During a private meeting between Trump and Obama..

    Obama encouraged then President-elect Donald Trump... a strategy of ratcheting up pressure both on North Korea and its ally China...

    According to Wolfsthal, the outgoing Obama team presented two options to Trump for dealing with the North Korean threat: seek a freeze on North Korea's nuclear and missile programs through direct engagement, and increase pressure on North Korea through China.

    Make it clear to China that their continued protection of North Korea was beginning to undermine American security interests and that we would increasingly have to take steps to protect our interests in a way that might undermine China's own security was a strategy that we believed was going to bear fruit,” said Wolfsthal in. 2017

    (Wolfsthal served until recently as Obama's special assistant and senior director at the National Security Council for arms control and nonproliferation.)

    Now go ahead and disagree, Loki :D
     
  4. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    *chuckle*, not sure what I'm supposed to be disagreeing with Bliss. Clearly Trump is following a plan that Obama laid out to increase pressure on NK, I already said Trump raised the sanctions, and that clearly played a part in driving them to the negotiating table. China has increased and decreased pressure on NK before Trump based on how much pushback they got from other countries and the UN, we will have to agree to disagree that they just let him roam.
     
  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Yay!
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    I knew you wouldn't disagree when oh wise-one Obama was involved. Lol :D

    Kidding aside, this is a great outcome.
    Obama advised and Trump executed. See what greatness occurs when both sides work for and towards the one goal? :cool: God Bless America, lol! :D
     
  6. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    America’s first black billionaire says Trump economy has been good for African Americans
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-says-trump-economy-benefits-black-americans/

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    BET founder Robert L. Johnson, America’s first black billionaire, said during a CNBC appearance on Friday that black Americans should be encouraged by the growing economy under President Trump.

    “Something is going right,” said Johnson, owner and chairman of Bethesda-based asset management firm RLJ Companies.

    Johnson, who’s been friendly with Trump through the years, said he had met with Trump at his golf club in New Jersey shortly after his win when the president-elect offered Johnson a cabinet position.

    “I thought I would meet to see if there’s common ground with someone most in the black community might call an enemy,” Johnson told NBC at the time. “It was clearly based on the respect two businessmen would give each other.”

    Johnson reiterated Friday that he turned down the cabinet position because he didn’t want to work for the government.

    He said he continues to have access to top administration officials -- including Trump himself during a meeting last week in Florida -- who he speaks with regularly about improving the economic lives of African Americans. Among the issues he said he's engaged them on are encouraging black workers to save for retirement and keeping black-owned banks solvent so poor communities would have access to capital.

    Johnson, a Democrat and supporter of Hillary Clinton, had previously penned an essay on how African American voters should respond to the “tectonic political rift” resulting in Trump’s election.

    “Why shouldn't we, as Black voters, reject the notion that we are locked into one party which undoubtedly limits and dilutes our voting power? We should, instead, use the power of our vote to support and elect whichever party that best serves our interests,” Johnson wrote

    He went on to quote former representative William Lacy Clay Sr. (D-Mo.), who formed the Congressional Black Caucus in 1971: "Black people have no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, just permanent interests."

    “That was the CBC motto then and Black Americans should embrace it as our rallying cry today,”
    Johnson wrote.
     
  7. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member


    He is right in some regards, black people need to get out of that "Democrat for life" mentality, truthfully White people should do the same thing there are a shit ton of white people who vote Republican because of bullshit undeserved loyalty. People should vote for their best interest, not for their race.

    Having said that, he is also a rich person (one of the people most helped by tax cuts) so you have to take his endorsement of Trump's economic policies with a huge grain of salt. Also, rich people always obfuscate the truth about a "growing economy" economic growth in a capitalist society can (and often does) mean the rich are getting richer while the middle class and working poor see very little change.
     
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  8. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    I see this and I start laughing like a damn bond villain
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Nope its good for him. I can recognize when things are good for me but I can see how it sucks for others.
     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    How is more jobs good for him but not good for others? Why would lower unemployment NOT benefit others and everyone? Are you serious? Your hate for capitalism is blinding you. Why are you even in a capitalistic profession?
     
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  11. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    So don't create jobs then? Forget our capatalist system and way of life because other countries have it figured out, since apparently we don't?
    What the heck do you want Thump?
    Speak.
     
  12. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You think more money equals more jobs? What kind of jobs Bliss? You were the first one under Obama to point out that the unemployment numbers were bs because a lot of people dropped out. Now it's because Trump is doing a good job?
    Hypocrite party of one please
     
  13. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    A lot did drop out. Are you saying that's what's happening now? Lol!
    Companies can't find enough workers and this is coming from leftist news. It was an employers market during the recession in his first term, now it's an employees market. Prove me wrong.

    Bottom line, capitalism creates jobs. The private sector has always exceeded the Government in providing quality of life and is responsible for the growth of the middle-class. Show me a socialist/communist country that relies on their Government for employment of its citizens, that is thriving.
     
  14. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    All I want is for rich people to stop lying about their true motivations, and for the gullible to stop voting for their own oppression. The rich could care less about the economy all they care about is their own pockets. These so-called job creators wouldn't care at all if our country was like one of those third world countries where 1% of 1% has all the money and everybody else is eating dirt sandwiches.
     
  15. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Here is a pretty fair analysis of the job market/economy since 2017. Some good news some not so good news...https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-has-trump-made-economy-great-again/
     
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  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    The united states post new deal
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

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    "Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize",
    says South Korean President Moon for helping to broker an end to hostilities with Kim Jong-un and a 'complete denuclearization'.


    That picture alone, is historic and incredible. These monumental Peace moves are almost surreal.
     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    You mean, like this one, from 2000, with SK POTUS Kim Dae Jung and Kim Jong Il??
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    Trump and his entire administration are being played by the North Koreans.

    By gutting the State Department and not appointing a professional diplomat to run it, there aren't enough people surrounding Trump with the institutional memory to know how to deal with NK.

    This so called detente between NK and SK is less about denuclearizing NK and more so to give them international legitimacy in order to receive foreign aid from countries like the U.S.

    And South Korea.

    This issue is so complicated, yet Trump thinks he has some magical solution none of his predecessors before him had figured out.

    BTW Kim did win the Nobel Prize in 2000 for easing tensions between NK and SK. Later it was found out that SK paid hundreds of millions of dollars to broker this historic summit.

    Trump needs to be very careful in taking credit for something that could end up becoming an international scandal, the way it became in 2000.
     
  19. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    He's never taken credit. Show me where he has. Plenty of others are praising him but he has never said it's because of him.

    Also, was his father lobbing rockets?

    In 2000...why has it taken 18 years for the same diplomacy? Weve had 2 Presidents with "State Departmentss" since then.
    Including Ms Russia "Reset button" Hillary.
     
  20. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Sure he has Bliss, 1:28 of video below

     

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