TRUMP Thread

Bliss said:
Families? Prove it's your child. I have shown you links of kids kidnapped, rented, human smuggling, child sex trafficking, child labor.
It's well known and shared that kids get you a faster pass if you're caught.
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So you have no link for the TV stats you posted?
 
andreboba said:
Trump is going to repeal his OWN policy. The reason separating children from their parents was a bad idea is because Trump CHOSE to do it in the first place.

He wasn't enforcing some bad immigration law that he was completely against.

The reason he's repealing the policy has nothing to do with the Dems. Trump is catching heat from both Republican voters AND politicians.
Fox News has it's the wrong way to handle border control.
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Half of them ARE NOT THEIR PARENTS!
8,000 minors come in unnacompanied without an adult.
2000 arrive with a male or female adult claiming to be the parent.
How do you know if it's true??
 
Bliss said:
Half of them ARE NOT THEIR PARENTS!
8,000 minors come in unnacompanied without an adult.
2000 arrive with a male or female adult claiming to be the parent.
How do you know if it's true??
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This is a another right wing conspiracy theory.

There aren't thousands upon thousands of kids crossing the border with people who aren't their parents.
If the Trump administration believed this was the reason they were separating kids from their parents, because they weren't with their actual parents, that's the argument AG Sessions would have made.

At best there's only a fraction of kids and adults pulling this scam.

The overwhelming majority accompanied by an adult are with their parents.

Who the fuck would allow someone to take their infant, or 3 or 4 year old, to the United States hoping for asylum??

You talk about illegals like they're ANIMALS with no human decency.

This is the problem with the right wing, you've spent so much time demonizing and dehumanizing illegal immigrants, you believe they ALL do this crazy shit that makes no sense.

Also, quit the nonsense about the epidemic of child smuggling from Latin America.
 
andreboba said:
Trump is going to repeal his OWN policy. The reason separating children from their parents was a bad idea is because Trump CHOSE to do it in the first place.

He wasn't enforcing some bad immigration law that he was completely against.

The reason he's repealing the policy has nothing to do with the Dems. Trump is catching heat from both Republican voters AND politicians.
Fox News has it's the wrong way to handle border control.
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@Loki ...AB.. Didn't l tell you the Dems would find a way to complain?? Of course they're blaming Trump for signing it now! Lololol!! Faux Dems are never satisfied! #exposed

Far left Vox said:
Flores agreement: Trump’s executive order to end family separation might run afoul of a 1997 court ruling

Trump can’t overrule the Flores settlement with the stroke of a pen. But getting rid of the court agreement has been in his administration’s sights for months. While Republicans frame Flores as the obstacle to keeping families together, many of the people outraged over family separation might not be too happy with a world without Flores, either...

https://www-vox-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/6/20/17484546/executive-order-family-separation-flores-settlement-agreement-immigration?amp_js_v=a1&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCCAE=#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://www.vox.com/2018/6/20/17484546/executive-order-family-separation-flores-settlement-agreement-immigration&ampshare=https://www.vox.com/2018/6/20/17484546/executive-order-family-separation-flores-settlement-agreement-immigration
 
The lies continue on...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/...ican-election-.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Trump Falsely Claims to Be First Republican to Win Wisconsin Since Eisenhower

Following Eisenhower’s two Badger State victories in 1952 and 1956, Wisconsin voted for Republican presidential candidates in 1960, 1968, 1972, 1980 and 1984 before Mr. Trump’s win in 2016.

By Linda Qiu

  • June 28, 2018
WHAT WAS SAID

“When we won the state of Wisconsin, it hadn’t been won by a Republican since Dwight D. Eisenhower.”

— President Trump, at an event in Mount Pleasant, Wis., on Thursday

THE FACTS

False.
Two other Republican presidents won Wisconsin after Dwight D. Eisenhower twice swept the state in 1952 and 1956, and Mr. Trump took it in 2016.

Richard M. Nixon first won Wisconsin in the 1960 presidential election, but lost the nationwide vote to John F. Kennedy. Nixon won Wisconsin again in 1968 and in 1972.

A decade later, Ronald Reagan also won Wisconsin in 1980 and 1984.

Mr. Trump often recalls his Electoral College wins in speeches, and previously has claimed to be the first Republican to win the Badger State in “many, many years” or “in decades.”

Occasionally, he has specified the amount of time elapsed since a Republican last won Wisconsin. But the time frame has increased with each telling.

38 years since a Republican candidate took the state; at a speech in South Carolina on Monday it was 44 years. On Thursday, Mr. Trump said he was the first Republican to win there in a half century.
 
Well... Based on their last talk... I'm guessing we'll hear something like this from the POTUS... He said he hasn't meddled in our elections and won't do it in the upcoming elections.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...ion-meddling-putin-summit-20180630-story.html

MORRISTOWN, N.J. — President Donald Trump said Friday he plans to bring up Russian election meddling during his upcoming summit with Vladimir Putin, part of a wide-ranging list of topics that could include sanctions and the status of Crimea.

Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One that he planned to discuss Ukraine, Syria and Crimea as well as election interference when he meets with the Russian president in Helsinki, Finland, next month in a summit he said could help defuse tensions between Moscow and Washington.


"We'll be talking about elections. We don't want anybody tampering with elections," Trump said. The president has repeatedly minimized the conclusion of the U.S. intelligence community that Russia meddled in the 2016 election to help him win.

He tweeted Thursday, "Russia continues to say they had nothing to do with Meddling in our Election!" And he has called the FBI's investigation into potential Russian coordination with his campaign a "witch hunt" designed to delegitimize his presidency.


Trump was noncommittal when asked if he might lift sanctions imposed on Russia, telling reporters: "We'll see what Russia does. We're going to be talking to Russia about a lot of things. We're going to be talking to them about Syria, we're going to be talking to them about Ukraine. We might even be talking about some of the things President Obama lost, like Crimea, that could come up."

Asked if the U.S. might recognize Crimea to be part of Russia, he said, "We're to have to see" and then said the situation was handled "unfortunately" by his predecessor, President Barack Obama.

Trump has previously suggested Russia should be allowed to return to the Group of Seven — formerly Eight — economic powers. Putin was expelled from the international group in 2014 after Russia moved troops into eastern Ukraine and annexed the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea. Leaders of the other G-7 nations — Britain, Canada, Italy, France, Germany and Japan — have all made clear Russia is not welcome back until and unless it gives Crimea back to Ukraine.

The Obama administration, along with the European Union and individual allied countries, imposed sanctions on Russia over Crimea, and even members of Trump's Cabinet have said they will not be lifted until the situation is resolved.

During the flight Friday to his New Jersey golf resort, Trump was also asked to preview next month's NATO summit in Brussels. He reiterated his plans to push fellow NATO members to devote more of their budgets to defense.

"Germany has to spend more money," he said. "Spain, France, it's unfair what they've done to the United States."
 
DudeNY12 said:
The lies continue on...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/...ican-election-.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Trump Falsely Claims to Be First Republican to Win Wisconsin Since Eisenhower

Following Eisenhower’s two Badger State victories in 1952 and 1956, Wisconsin voted for Republican presidential candidates in 1960, 1968, 1972, 1980 and 1984 before Mr. Trump’s win in 2016.

By Linda Qiu

  • June 28, 2018
WHAT WAS SAID

“When we won the state of Wisconsin, it hadn’t been won by a Republican since Dwight D. Eisenhower.”

— President Trump, at an event in Mount Pleasant, Wis., on Thursday

THE FACTS

False.
Two other Republican presidents won Wisconsin after Dwight D. Eisenhower twice swept the state in 1952 and 1956, and Mr. Trump took it in 2016.

Richard M. Nixon first won Wisconsin in the 1960 presidential election, but lost the nationwide vote to John F. Kennedy. Nixon won Wisconsin again in 1968 and in 1972.

A decade later, Ronald Reagan also won Wisconsin in 1980 and 1984.

Mr. Trump often recalls his Electoral College wins in speeches, and previously has claimed to be the first Republican to win the Badger State in “many, many years” or “in decades.”

Occasionally, he has specified the amount of time elapsed since a Republican last won Wisconsin. But the time frame has increased with each telling.

38 years since a Republican candidate took the state; at a speech in South Carolina on Monday it was 44 years. On Thursday, Mr. Trump said he was the first Republican to win there in a half century.
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They don't call him The Whopper King for nothing.
 
Since1980 said:
But it kinda makes you wonder, is this just dishonesty or ignorance? Trump has both in spades and since he says so many untrue things it can be hard to tell which is which.
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I think it’s both and then some. The POTUS has demonstrated many times over the decades
how he’s hateful, racist and just a horrible person with no redeeming qualities. In addition to this his ego won’t allow him any form of introspection, and/or any idea that he’s not the superior genius that he thinks he is. That said... he’s also somewhat aware That he’s lacking. Every time he’s asked a tough question he goes to one of his pathetic tactics of deflecting. Nothing is ever his fault, and he’s never made a mistake. I guess that’s what a “good brain” does for one.
 
DudeNY12 said:
I think it’s both and then some. The POTUS has demonstrated many times over the decades
how he’s hateful, racist and just a horrible person with no redeeming qualities. In addition to this his ego won’t allow him any form of introspection, and/or any idea that he’s not the superior genius that he thinks he is. That said... he’s also somewhat aware That he’s lacking. Every time he’s asked a tough question he goes to one of his pathetic tactics of deflecting. Nothing is ever his fault, and he’s never made a mistake. I guess that’s what a “good brain” does for one.
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Sometimes I wonder if he would be more inclined to actually learn something about the job he's doing if his party held him to even the bare minimum standard of competency. But when the GOP enables everything he does it looks like there's no way that we are ever going to find out the answer to that question.
 
Since1980 said:
Sometimes I wonder if he would be more inclined to actually learn something about the job he's doing if his party held him to even the bare minimum standard of competency. But when the GOP enables everything he does it looks like there's no way that we are ever going to find out the answer to that question.
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I don't think he is. Remember... He came into office thinking he had all of the answers and that he could fix everything himself. I suspect that if the stars aligned, and the GOP did hold him somewhat accountable... He'd simply do as he would with anyone/anything else, and come up with his own half-baked theory on why they disliked him, and/or treating him unfairly. That or simply deflect and place blame anywhere except on himself.
 
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