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Tallahasse mayor Gillum (39 year old black man) wins FL democratic primary.

So far I've read that he wants to implement a state income tax. I hope that's a bs lie. I need to do some research to see what his plans are.

I'm conflicted here, I hate to say it but I'm not sure I want a blue governor of FL. Hopefully this guy is not a cookie cut dem. I'd hate to vote against him, but that depends on his policies.
 
In news they don't tell YOU....

Rep Mark Meadows tweet:
"We've learned NEW information suggesting our suspicions are true: FBI/DOJ have previously leaked info to the press, and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA's"

FBI Special Agent Jonathan Moffa, who worked with former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, says that officials "were known to leak information to the press and then use the resulting articles to help obtain surveillance warrants."

Moffa, an FBI intelligence analyst, reportedly told the committees that FBI personnel would then take the stories to FISA courts to get warrants to spy.

When pressed on whether this is a common practice at the FBI, Special Agent Moffa told the committees that he knew of the bureau doing the practice in other cases in the past...

https://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-...eaks-stories-then-uses-them-for-fisa-warrants
 
Bliss said:
Rep Mark Meadows tweet:
"We've learned NEW information suggesting our suspicions are true: FBI/DOJ have previously leaked info to the press, and then used those same press stories as a separate source to justify FISA's"

FBI Special Agent Jonathan Moffa, who worked with former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, says that officials "were known to leak information to the press and then use the resulting articles to help obtain surveillance warrants."

Moffa, an FBI intelligence analyst, reportedly told the committees that FBI personnel would then take the stories to FISA courts to get warrants to spy.

When pressed on whether this is a common practice at the FBI, Special Agent Moffa told the committees that he knew of the bureau doing the practice in other cases in the past...

https://abcstlouis.com/news/nation-...eaks-stories-then-uses-them-for-fisa-warrants
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I think FISA warrant need more probable cause than newspaper articles. Why leak when you can present the actual investigative intel to the FISA court??

Republicans are trying everything they can can to discredit the Steele dossier, except actually PROVE the intel in the dossier is specifically FALSE.
The majority of intel reported in the Steele dossier, bit by bit, has born out to be true.

But why combat the facts when instead you can tear down the FBI, HRC and the British spy who collected the intel??

Fox News ironically has a more precise take on what special agent Jon Moffa testified to Congress.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ries-then-used-them-to-get-fisa-warrants.html

A source with knowledge of the testimony initially told Fox News that Moffa said FBI personnel would use media reports based on information they leaked to justify applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants, echoing Meadows. The source said Moffa, who worked with controversial former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, acknowledged this “had been a practice in the past.”


But an FBI official pushed back, telling Fox News the initial claims about Moffa’s testimony were incorrect.


The source later clarified that Moffa testified the FBI routinely uses media material to corroborate their work product, including FISA materials, but “never said directly 'we utilize FBI leaks for FISAs.'” The source maintained, however, that the FBI has a “culture of leaking for their own gain” and uses media reports to support their work: “There's quite a bit of evidence raising concerns that the FBI engages in this without Moffa saying it."
 
andreboba said:
I think FISA warrant need more probable cause than newspaper articles. Why leak when you can present the actual investigative intel to the FISA court??

Republicans are trying everything they can can to discredit the Steele dossier, except actually PROVE the intel in the dossier is specifically FALSE.
The majority of intel reported in the Steele dossier, bit by bit, has born out to be true.

But why combat the facts when instead you can tear down the FBI, HRC and the British spy who collected the intel??

Fox News ironically has a more precise take on what special agent Jon Moffa testified to Congress.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ries-then-used-them-to-get-fisa-warrants.html

A source with knowledge of the testimony initially told Fox News that Moffa said FBI personnel would use media reports based on information they leaked to justify applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants, echoing Meadows. The source said Moffa, who worked with controversial former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, acknowledged this “had been a practice in the past.”


But an FBI official pushed back, telling Fox News the initial claims about Moffa’s testimony were incorrect.


The source later clarified that Moffa testified the FBI routinely uses media material to corroborate their work product, including FISA materials, but “never said directly 'we utilize FBI leaks for FISAs.'” The source maintained, however, that the FBI has a “culture of leaking for their own gain” and uses media reports to support their work: “There's quite a bit of evidence raising concerns that the FBI engages in this without Moffa saying it."
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What of the dossier is true? Show me the collusion, the pissing, all of it. You keep saying it's been proven.
Then, show it.
 
Bliss said:
What of the dossier is true? Show me the collusion, the pissing, all of it. You keep saying it's been proven.
Then, show it.
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What part of the dossier isn't true?? Except for the pee pee in the hotel with the Russian hookers, which will be near impossible to verify, nearly all of the dossier has been confirmed.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-true-proven-929839

We already have evidence of collusion with the Russians.
When Don Jr. got the email from Rob Goldstone that the crown prosecutor from Russia had offered “to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father," and Don Jr. replied, " I love it" and set up the meeting at the Trump Tower(!!), that's collusion and possibly treason.

All Mueller is trying to do now is find irrefutable evidence of a conspiracy.

We all know Don Jr. is a liar and likely the next target to be indicted in the Muller probe. Don Jr. was asked in closed testimony by Congress if he ever informed his father about that meeting, Junior said 'no'.

Except that Don Jr. called a blocked cellphone number right after that meeting. Don Jr. was asked if his FATHER had a blocked cellphone number.
Don Junior said, ' he didn't know.'

Mueller KNOWS.
 
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Thump said:
Has anybody ever used the term "monkey this up"?

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"Monkey around, screw this up".
Sound like he just conflated both expressions. When you hear the whole comment in context that he was talking about higher taxes socislism etc for Florida, it makes sense. (a.k.a, Don't fuck it up)

Just like people understood what Obama meant...
Then-Senator Obama (D-IL) said (0:29 in the video below): “I come from Chicago. It’s not as if it’s just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes Democrats have, too. You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.”

If you need more,
Videos of politicians also using it in similar context..

Socialist, Bernie Sanders
Jay Carney
Dick Durbin
Josh Ernest
Chuck schumer
Angus King
Clinton Press Secretary, Mike McCurry
Obama's SOS, John Kerry
Adam Schiff
Dem Super donor, Comcast Honcho, Brian Roberts

(The news they don't tell YOU)
 
Bliss said:
"Monkey around, screw this up".
Sound like he just conflated both expressions. When you hear the whole comment in context that he was talking about higher taxes socislism etc for Florida, it makes sense. (a.k.a, Don't fuck it up)

Just like people understood what Obama meant...
Then-Senator Obama (D-IL) said (0:29 in the video below): “I come from Chicago. It’s not as if it’s just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes Democrats have, too. You know, whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to tilt things in their direction.”

If you need more,
Videos of politicians also using it in similar context..

Socialist, Bernie Sanders
Jay Carney
Dick Durbin
Josh Ernest
Chuck schumer
Angus King
Clinton Press Secretary, Mike McCurry
Obama's SOS, John Kerry
Adam Schiff
Dem Super donor, Comcast Honcho, Brian Roberts

(The news they don't tell YOU)
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I've never heard anyone EVER say, "Monkey this up."
DeSantis forced that word into his remarks, all the more odd since he was commenting directly to the first African-American to ever win a Democratic gubernatorial primary.
To describe your opponent for governor as potentially "monkeying up" the state of FLA if he were to win, what the hell does that even mean??
And why would you say that about a Black man and not think it wouldn't be considered racially offensive??

WHen you need the staff of some bogus news organization to research why what DeSantis said wasn't intentionally racist, it was probably meant to be racist.

BTW, why do you hardly ever post links to the info you post??

That list of names aren't links to videos, so they prove nothing.

Man, the shit you choose defend at times is really bizarre.

Even Fox News said after his remarks they didn't condone his comments.

It's not as if DeSantis doesn't have a history.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...ist-conspiracy-sharing-facebook-page-10682854

" But giving DeSantis the benefit of the doubt on these kinds of stories grows increasing difficult with each racially offensive misstep. Before his "monkey" comment, there was the rally where he defended an audience member who wanted to "bring back the hanging tree," recalling memories of Florida's vile history of racist lynchings. Before that, one of his top fundraisers was suspended from Fox News for asking a black panelist if he was "out of his cotton-picking mind." And before that, DeSantis dismissed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as "this girl... or whatever she is." And before that came his appearances alongside Islamophobe David Horowitz and disgraced alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos. "
 
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andreboba said:
I've never heard anyone EVER say, "Monkey this up."
DeSantis forced that word into his remarks, all the more odd since he was commenting directly to the first African-American to ever win a Democratic gubernatorial primary.
To describe your opponent for governor as potentially "monkeying up" the state of FLA if he were to win, what the hell does that even mean??
And why would you say that about a Black man and not think it wouldn't be considered racially offensive??

WHen you need the staff of some bogus news organization to research why what DeSantis said wasn't intentionally racist, it was probably meant to be racist.

BTW, why do you hardly ever post links to the info you post??

That list of names aren't links to videos, so they prove nothing.

Man, the shit you choose defend at times is really bizarre.

Even Fox News said after his remarks they didn't condone his comments.

It's not as DeSantis doesn't have a history.

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...ist-conspiracy-sharing-facebook-page-10682854

" But giving DeSantis the benefit of the doubt on these kinds of stories grows increasing difficult with each racially offensive misstep. Before his "monkey" comment, there was the rally where he defended an audience member who wanted to "bring back the hanging tree," recalling memories of Florida's vile history of racist lynchings. Before that, one of his top fundraisers was suspended from Fox News for asking a black panelist if he was "out of his cotton-picking mind." And before that, DeSantis dismissed Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as "this girl... or whatever she is." And before that came his appearances alongside Islamophobe David Horowitz and disgraced alt-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos. "
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Oh honey..here ya go. I didn't link all the videos of democrats using it because fuck, they're all over the web.
Well, except your echo chamber.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...of-democrats-saying-monkeying-around-n2514415

*Oh yea, they also added at least 10 more videos of politicians to my previous list l posted. I'm sure by the weekend, there will be even more who used the expression in their comments.
Dude, stop making it something it's not...it's not always as you say it is.
 
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Bliss said:
Oh honey..here ya go. I didn't link all the videos of democrats using it because fuck, they're all over the web.
Well, except your echo chamber.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...of-democrats-saying-monkeying-around-n2514415

*Oh yea, they also added at least 10 more videos of politicians to my previous list l posted. I'm sure by the weekend, there will be even more who used the expression in their comments.
Dude, stop making it something it's not...it's not always as you say it is.
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Ahh......two of my favorite tactics for defending and deflecting dog whistle racism. Ignore context and feign ignorance of racism's history in our society.

How silly of us black people for not realizing that Bernie Sanders saying "monkey around" when referring to interest rates, is exactly the same thing as a Trump Republican using the term while referring to the dangers of Floridians electing their first black governor.

I don't know how we ever could have thought Mr. DeSantis might be racist when he was so nice by calling his black opponent "articulate".
 
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