Do you prefer your man to be tall or short?

[Beasty]

They are either alone because they want to be; they expect too much for what they bring to the table, or they are in poor mental health.

You can probably say the exact same thing about the uncoupled (& short) men.

Now that you have just discovered what a Corvette is, you know everything about men now, I'm sure.

Keep letting TV speak for men. All we want is bimbos with fake boobs.

 

[Beasty]

Men ignore ordinary looking women too, even the ordinary men does. If they didn't, we would not have any men complaining.

A.) Ordinary Men ignore ordinary looking women.
B.) This is true because men complain.

How did you derive A from B? How does those two sentences go together to create what appears as an attempt at logic?

 

[Frederick]

Men ignore ordinary looking women too, even the ordinary men does. If they didn't, we would not have any men complaining.

This is complete and utter BS. Average women get approached MORE than super attractive ones because most dudes who aren't all that know that they're going to get immediately curbed by "10s" and think that they have a better shot with somebody lower down the food chain.

This is why you see so many average to below average women who are vocal about how they prima facie exclude all sorts of different types of men based on race, height, income, body type, baldness etc. It's because the average woman can afford to be a lot pickier than the average man.

In my city, I see frumpy, overweight women of various races with slim, ordinary looking white dudes all the time. I can count on one hand the number of times that I've seen the opposite.

 

[Reverie]

Why shouldn't I?

I'm not saying some average men don't ignore average women but the vast majority don't. They're usually gun shy because of all of the rejection most women deal out hoping for a better option

Now that you have just discovered what a Corvette is, you know everything about men now, I'm sure.

Keep letting TV speak for men. All we want is bimbos with fake boobs.

A.) Ordinary Men ignore ordinary looking women.
B.) This is true because men complain.

How did you derive A from B? How does those two sentences go together to create what appears as an attempt at logic?

This is complete and utter BS. Average women get approached MORE than super attractive ones because most dudes who aren't all that know that they're going to get immediately curbed by "10s" and think that they have a better shot with somebody lower down the food chain.

This is why you see so many average to below average women who are vocal about how they prima facie exclude all sorts of different types of men based on race, height, income, body type, baldness etc. It's because the average woman can afford to be a lot pickier than the average man.

In my city, I see frumpy, overweight women of various races with slim, ordinary looking white dudes all the time. I can count on one hand the number of times that I've seen the opposite.

Laughing because you are alle too eager to portrait men as victims

 

[Beasty]

Laughing because you are alle too eager to portrait men as victims

Victims? We're not talking about #metoo.

 

[Madeleine]

Short men feel entitled? Lol.

Short women try to conceal their lack of empathy for short men by pretending not to see their struggle. Eyes wide shut

You all can simply admit that you don't like short men and be done with it. Yanno?

Shortness is relative. Shorter than myself would be a problem but anything my height and up is ok, so I have nothing to admit;-).

 

[Madeleine]

Since you are claiming that women pattern their behavior after men:

1. )What positive behavior have they copied from men?


2.) then why don't they grasp the most basic social concept of all which is: friendship??

What’s your proof that women don’t grasp the meaning of friendship? I keep hearing the same thing.

 

[Beasty]

What’s your proof that women don’t grasp the meaning of friendship? I keep hearing the same thing.

1.) Observation. Watching women fail at being friends with one another, over and over.

2.) They think "friends with benefits" is a bad thing when it's the only type of relationship that allows you to be there for them without being obilgated. Which is what women actually want anyway. They want you to be there for them because you want to, not because you feel obligated.

3.) Being friends with women and seeing them fail at the most basic social concept first hand....lol. Especially if sex is involved.

4.) Experiencing the huge difference between women that don't grow up with brothers vs those that do.

5.) Conversing with women from all walks of life, and actually listening to them tell on themselves. Women let us know all the time. You won't be able to see it because you're providing us with evidence with some of your responses ......lol

 

[samson1701]

Men ignore ordinary looking women too, even the ordinary men does. If they didn't, we would not have any men complaining.



You should not be talking about this out from your own experiences.

I'm not trying pick on you or anything like that. But, I want to ask you, and every woman here, one question that I think will illustrate the point men are trying to make;
Has there ever been a time in your sexual life where you had zero options for a romantic partner? And, when I say zero, I mean no one will date you or have sex with you no matter how much you lower your standards. Not even guy friends. Have you ever had absolutely no chance for romantic companionship? And, people who are interested in you, but you don't like, doesn't count. Answer honestly, please.

 

[Madeleine]

1.) Observation. Watching women fail at being friends with one another, over and over.

2.) They think "friends with benefits" is a bad thing when it's the only type of relationship that allows you to be there for them without being obilgated. Which is what women actually want anyway. They want you to be there for them because you want to, not because you feel obligated.

3.) Being friends with women and seeing them fail at the most basic social concept first hand....lol. Especially if sex is involved.

4.) Experiencing the huge difference between women that don't grow up with brothers vs those that do.

5.) Conversing with women from all walks of life, and actually listening to them tell on themselves. Women let us know all the time. You won't be able to see it because you're providing us with evidence with some of your responses ......lol

Your definition of relationships is from a very masculine point of view. That makes it right for you but not universally true.
I know a lot of women who are great friends in the long term. I happen to be someone who doesn’t quickly call someone a friend. Not all my acquaintances are friends. The people I do call friends are in my life for the long run.
As for friends with benefits... some women say they are ok with such arrangements. Most women if they had the choice would like their sexual relationships in a committed context. It doesn’t mean we want the man to do stuff because he’s obliged. Rather we want him to care so much about us that he commits himself out of his own free will and feels like giving freely to us. The point is that many men just feel more comfortable in a non-committed relationship where you just give what you want to give when you want to give. That doesn’t prove that men are better at friendships. It just proves what most people already know: Men and women have different biological programming in sexual relationships at a basic level. Women are programmed to seek a stable environment for potential offspring and men are programmed to spread the joy. There are a lot of men out there who are afraid of commitment and wrap it in all sorts of concept to justify it.

 

[Beasty]

Your definition of relationships is from a very masculine point of view. That makes it right for you but not universally true.
I know a lot of women who are great friends in the long term. I happen to be someone who doesn’t quickly call someone a friend. Not all my acquaintances are friends. The people I do call friends are in my life for the long run.
As for friends with benefits... some women say they are ok with such arrangements. Most women if they had the choice would like their sexual relationships in a committed context. It doesn’t mean we want the man to do stuff because he’s obliged. Rather we want him to care so much about us that he commits himself out of his own free will and feels like giving freely to us. The point is that many men just feel more comfortable in a non-committed relationship where you just give what you want to give when you want to give. That doesn’t prove that men are better at friendships. It just proves what most people already know: Men and women have different biological programming in sexual relationships at a basic level. Women are programmed to seek a stable environment for potential offspring and men are programmed to spread the joy.

"Spread the joy"

Friends with benefits can easily be mongamous. Why would you assume that it's not?

 

[Madeleine]

"Spread the joy"

Friends with benefits can easily be mongamous. Why would you assume that it's not?

Is that the only thing I said? I said those are our biological tendencies on the most instinctual level. I didn’t say all fwb have to be non-monogamous.

 

[Beasty]

Is that the only thing I said? I said those are our biological tendencies on the most instinctual level. I didn’t say all fwb have to be non-monogamous.

The reason I pointed that out because it has nothing to do with "spreading the joy"

Most of us are not girl crazy teenagers anymore, we're capable of functioning in society with only one sex partner. It doesn't really require establishing fictional titles like "girl friend" or forming business contracts. At least it shouldn't anyway.

 

[Madeleine]

The reason I pointed that out because it has nothing to do with "spreading the joy"

Most of us are not girl crazy teenagers anymore, we're capable of functioning in society with only one sex partner. It doesn't really require establishing fictional titles like "girl friend" or forming business contracts. At least it shouldn't anyway.

I know some people who have been “together” in the sense of being exclusive sex-partners and life partners and living-together and having kids together for 30 plus years. Am sure they don’t call each other gf and bf. That’s not the point. They must however have agreed on a high-level of commitment and loyalty at some point, be it verbally or unverbally.

 

[Beasty]

I know some people who have been “together” in the sense of being exclusive sex-partners and life partners and living-together and having kids together for 30 plus years. Am sure they don’t call each other gf and bf. That’s not the point. They must however have agreed on a high-level of commitment and loyalty at some point, be it verbally or unverbally.

What do you consider to be commitment?

 

[Frederick]

I'm not trying pick on you or anything like that. But, I want to ask you, and every woman here, one question that I think will illustrate the point men are trying to make;
Has there ever been a time in your sexual life where you had zero options for a romantic partner? And, when I say zero, I mean no one will date you or have sex with you no matter how much you lower your standards. Not even guy friends. Have you ever had absolutely no chance for romantic companionship? And, people who are interested in you, but you don't like, doesn't count. Answer honestly, please.

Notice this got ignored because the answer is "no," and they're just trying to gaslight us with this horseshit about having it equally as hard as men who don't have anything going for them.

 

[Reverie]

I'm not trying pick on you or anything like that. But, I want to ask you, and every woman here, one question that I think will illustrate the point men are trying to make;
Has there ever been a time in your sexual life where you had zero options for a romantic partner? And, when I say zero, I mean no one will date you or have sex with you no matter how much you lower your standards. Not even guy friends. Have you ever had absolutely no chance for romantic companionship? And, people who are interested in you, but you don't like, doesn't count. Answer honestly, please.

Having sex is not the same as having a relationship.

 

[The Dark King]

Notice this got ignored because the answer is "no," and they're just trying to gaslight us with this horseshit about having it equally as hard as men who don't have anything going for them.

Yup. We keep learning that women overall aren't as compassionate as we've been lead to believe. No blaming them either just saying we should fix the narrative to be more accurate.

 

[The Dark King]

Having sex is not the same as having a relationship.

For a lot of men it is and I think that's the miscommunication. You see it as both genders don't get what they want all the time so why complain women suffer too. Men do have it easier when trying to find companionship and women have it easier finding sex. The difference is men don't gaslight women into believing their situation is all in their head

 

[Reverie]

For a lot of men it is and I think that's the miscommunication. You see it as both genders don't get what they want all the time so why complain women suffer too. Men do have it easier when trying to find companionship and women have it easier finding sex. The difference is men don't gaslight women into believing their situation is all in their head

Women don't gaslight men about their situation either, we tell them to man up and do what it takes to improve yourself to be someone we would want to have sex with...