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qaz1 said:
Well some of those recommendations do show his actual power, which is why I recommended them lol. But I get what you mean. It can be tough to do a good Superman story when his abilities are properly respected. I think the key is to focus on what no amount of physical power can accomplish (making him inspirational), as opposed to turning him into a brooding, "edgy" mess of a Batman analogue (*cough* Zack Snyder *cough*).
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I wonder if I'm the only one that changed favorites over the years. As a kid I did like superman.

My first favorite was the hulk because he was normal until you pissed him off then he transformed into a straight up beast.
Later Wolverine became my favorite because of his attitude, natural born badass.

Wasn't till later when Stark became my favorite. We are almost just alike except he is a billionaire. The good whisky, nice clothes, outlook on life, love for tech and cars, some of the style, business sense ect...

Wonder if anyone else changed favorites over the years.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
I agree with most of this. I disgree with the boys version straw man argument.

Homelander is a white American make raised in white America. He maintains the “so-called” values of white conservative males in power. Which is why so many alt-right white guy weirdos are doing so much damage (which I don’t need to go into). The boys poses the question of “what if Superman didn’t have a Kryptonian legacy?”

As much as we like to think John and Martha Kent are the sole reason why he doesn’t go apeshit, it’s his kryptonian side that keeps things at bay. His biological father sent him there for a reason and instilled the best of kryptonian values in him. His restraint is one of his greatest powers, and I agree with you.

Superman works because he reflects the best of a better alien society and has learned from the destruction of his own planet. Ours isn’t destroyed yet, so many have much to learn.

Homelander works because he reflects the shady white conservative male in a corrupt society and destroys without learning anything because his privileges allow him to turn a blind eye.

They both make sense for different reasons, but comparing the two is apples and oranges. I agree with you there.
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Big props, my dude! I have only one small nuance to add. I think the Kents did play a big role, at least in an Americana type of way (Smallville vs Red Son for example). But yeah, you pretty much nailed it.
 
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Beasty said:
I wonder if I'm the only one that changed favorites over the years. As a kid I did like superman.

My first favorite was the hulk because he was normal until you pissed him off then he transformed into a straight up beast.
Later Wolverine became my favorite because of his attitude, natural born badass.

Wasn't till later when Stark became my favorite. We are almost just alike except he is a billionaire. The good whisky, nice clothes, outlook on life, love for tech and cars, some of the style, business sense ect...

Wonder if anyone else changed favorites over the years.
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Nah I think it's normal to relate to different characters over time. No way you're alone. The difference I see for myself is that my appreciation for my childhood favorites has deepened and evolved over the years. But I definitely added new favorites too. Black Panther and Iron Man weren't on my radar til late high school.
 
Beasty said:
I wonder if I'm the only one that changed favorites over the years. As a kid I did like superman.

My first favorite was the hulk because he was normal until you pissed him off then he transformed into a straight up beast.
Later Wolverine became my favorite because of his attitude, natural born badass.

Wasn't till later when Stark became my favorite. We are almost just alike except he is a billionaire. The good whisky, nice clothes, outlook on life, love for tech and cars, some of the style, business sense ect...

Wonder if anyone else changed favorites over the years.
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Except you hate humanity lol. You wouldn't sacrifice it all to defeat Thanos.
I'm with you mu favorites have changed
I use to love Batman but he's a pompous rich guy who refuses to work out his issues with his parents deaths so he beats up on poor people while he retreats to his mansion.
Use to love Superman but another pompous asshole who sits in judgement of people when he never has to deal with things like hunger or sickness. He couldn't possible get what drives us but wants to judge.

I probably like Green Lantern most at this point
 
The Dark King said:
Use to love Superman but another pompous asshole who sits in judgement of people when he never has to deal with things like hunger or sickness. He couldn't possible get what drives us but wants to judge.
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Can you point me to examples of this? I haven't had the same experience. Not calling you out, I for real wanna understand.
 
The Dark King said:
Except you hate humanity lol. You wouldn't sacrifice it all to defeat Thanos.
I'm with you mu favorites have changed
I use to love Batman but he's a pompous rich guy who refuses to work out his issues with his parents deaths so he beats up on poor people while he retreats to his mansion.
Use to love Superman but another pompous asshole who sits in judgement of people when he never has to deal with things like hunger or sickness. He couldn't possible get what drives us but wants to judge.

I probably like Green Lantern most at this point
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Touche. You got me there bro. LOL

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qaz1 said:
Big props, my dude! I have only one small nuance to add. I think the Kents did play a big role, at least in an Americana type of way (Smallville vs Red Son for example). But yeah, you pretty much mailed it.
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I think the Kents played a role in his need to stay in the U.S. and some of his values, but in most continuities, he had to hide his powers. It was his kryptonian family that taught him otherwise. But, yeah, I agree, just a few subtle differences.
 
The Dark King said:
The Frank Miller Batman series where Batman and Superman fight is a great example. Boy Scout to a fault. Willing to do as Reagan commands even though he was corrupt as they come. He was part of the oppressive status quo
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Okay yeah, you're right on with that one. That's actually a Superman story that I cannot stand, pretty much for that very reason. Fortunately, that story is not official cannon despite Snyder's best efforts lol
 
The Dark King said:
Except you hate humanity lol. You wouldn't sacrifice it all to defeat Thanos.
I'm with you mu favorites have changed
I use to love Batman but he's a pompous rich guy who refuses to work out his issues with his parents deaths so he beats up on poor people while he retreats to his mansion.
Use to love Superman but another pompous asshole who sits in judgement of people when he never has to deal with things like hunger or sickness. He couldn't possible get what drives us but wants to judge.

I probably like Green Lantern most at this point
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John Stewart or Hal Jordan?
 
ColiBreh1 said:
Look like HBO's "Watchmen" is cancelled:

https://twitter.com/GaryMLevin/status/1217901171722997761
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/ente...n-wont-happen-after-creator-bails/4491269002/


also HBO has officially axed that "Confederate" show: https://tvline.com/2020/01/15/confederate-cancelled-hbo-slavery-drama-game-of-thrones-producers/
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It was good. Very good. They should leave well enough alone.

Watching it taught me four things:

Black men aren't great cops (the cop in the beginning who was shot and killed)

Black men are goofy and will get you killed over technicalities (the cop in the panda mask)

Even heroic, smart and powerful black men are unfaithful and gay. Or, at least unfaithful and bi. (Hooded Justice)

The perfect father and extremely supportive and faithful black husband can, in actually, only be a white man in cosmic powered black face

I was actually looking forward to "Confederate." It could've been sweet if handled right.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
Look like HBO's "Watchmen" is cancelled:

https://twitter.com/GaryMLevin/status/1217901171722997761
IWj3Kxr.jpg

https://www.usatoday.com/story/ente...n-wont-happen-after-creator-bails/4491269002/


also HBO has officially axed that "Confederate" show: https://tvline.com/2020/01/15/confederate-cancelled-hbo-slavery-drama-game-of-thrones-producers/
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samson1701 said:
It was good. Very good. They should leave well enough alone.

Watching it taught me four things:

Black men aren't great cops (the cop in the beginning who was shot and killed)

Black men are goofy and will get you killed over technicalities (the cop in the panda mask)

Even heroic, smart and powerful black men are unfaithful and gay. Or, at least unfaithful and bi. (Hooded Justice)

The perfect father and extremely supportive and faithful black husband can, in actually, only be a white man in cosmic powered black face

I was actually looking forward to "Confederate." It could've been sweet if handled right.
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LOL. "Watchmen" sounds as bad as all those Netflix shows that @The Dark King watches.
 
qaz1 said:
Would it change any minds here if at least one of them started a serious long-term relationship with a black man? Or does everyone here just hate it on bare principle?
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No, that's not it for me. Not at all. It's just that the writing and direction on Arrow has gotten so weak. The fight scenes are atrocious. That, and they're falling over themselves making these heroes women. Which would be cool if young, straight, possible heart throb, leading man type black males got a chance at having superhero shows centered on them. That's not happening, here.

With that said, I'd watch if it were a well done show like Seasons One and Two of Arrow and Flash. But, I have no faith that that will be the case.
 
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