TRUMP Thread
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Bliss
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Well that's true, however there is protocol for frontline workers that they can follow going home.
Doctors who treat covid patients have wives and little kids and put them at risk when they go home, right?
Same thing. But no one tells them not to do their job.
Thump
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Yeah, of course, they should still do their jobs but it would probably be really appreciated by the workers and their families if the people they are paid to take care of didn't put them at unnecessary risk.
hulkx
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Thank goodness we have the freaks in Hollywood to remind us...the ordinary Americans. How nice/kind/generous of them with absolutely no hidden motive or agenda.
Madeleine
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Exactly how many people have tested positive in and around the White House so far? Yeah exactly, so keep on taking infectious disease control guidelines from those people.
Madeleine
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Disrespecting your quarantine order is fined up to CHF 10.000 here. You don’t go anywhere except to the doc.
tp480
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A society run by competent individuals with triple digit IQs who knew that would work lol.
Bliss
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I'm still not understanding your concern over the risk part. Again, these agents assigned directly to the President are already exposed to him. If he had Ebola, they still would guard him.
This situation is no different.
In fact, the SS in the car? They volunteered to drive. So why are you worried?
They were certainly well protected.
Bliss
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IDK, 6-7? Out of hundreds. What's your point?
You keep on about him "risking others", why then do local Goverments transport covid patients to hotels to quarantine? All that the staff at hotels wear are masks.
Hotels all over my city advertise "covid patients welcomed". Really?
You know too, if you're diagnosed with Covid, unless you're dying or can't breathe or have a high fever, hospitals won't even admit you and they send you home to self-isolate. And that's with other symptoms.
Also, many companies, If you're asymptomatic or exibiting mild symptoms, have now abandoned the 14 day quarantine and allow you to return to work if you've had no fever for 12-24 hours, without the use of fever reducing medications.
The CDC state the same fever protocol, (along with now 10 days of isolation).
I think you're deliberately overreacting about his 5 minute drive outside the hospital.
Bliss
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Well l guess your homeland Germans didn't get the message, then...
Thousands of protesters took to the streets of Berlin chanting,
"We are free people"
as they complained about Germany's social distancing measures.
Also..
In your adopted country ..they aren't listening either..
Most returning to Switzerland from Covid-19 risk countries skipping quarantine
https://lenews.ch/2020/07/24/most-returning-from-covid-19-risk-countries-skipping-quarantine/
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Bliss
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No different than the rest of the world. Everyone and every leader is struggling to contain it.
Spain has mandatory mask wearing and one of the higest rates.
Italy had mandatory lock down, and you know that outcome.
Iran, the same.
India's Govt were shooting dead anyone outside of lockdown. Still have huge cases.
China we know, even when they dragged covid + citizens to encampments in Wuhan, their numbers soared.
South America and Mexico, huge numbers.
Even Switzerland, huge numbers.
You think President Trump can control 350 million people in the free-est country of the world?
Sweden controlled no one and they did fine, it dipped up, then back down and are doing fine again. And they never shut down their economy.
Same with Egypt. No lockdowns, no masks, low infections.
tp480
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So you know more than medical experts who have had years of education and certification ok. Go without a mask or better yet contract COVID-19. It’s all a joke and a hoax. I guarantee you won’t have the same stance!! This is stupid defending the indefensible!
Bliss
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Where praytell, in that post did you see me say anything about medical experts, let alone that "l know more" or call it a hoax?
On the contrary, l discussed how differing methods world-wide still produced similar results. This virus is EVERYWHERE.
As for masks, l think it's your choice.
I chose to wear one when l go indoors at stores/restaurants. I damn well will NOT WEAR ONE in my home or outdoors, unless l'm in a crowd, which I've not been in one since March.
Bottom line, you cannot, l repeat, cannot control the movement or actions of 7 billion people for months on end, let alone years. Why don't you get that?
tp480
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All your previous posts implied that getting it was no big deal! Again it’s just the flu. No big deal! Why avoid crowds? Herd immunity right?
Bliss
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I have not said "it's just the flu", what l have said is, as many people, if not more have died from the flu. But we never shut our economy down.
I've said People are dying from decreased, or nill medical attention for other deadly diseases and cancers.
I've agreed WITH MEDICAL EXPERTS that herd immunity is our biggest chance to shutter this virus before a vaccine is available.
As for avoiding crowds, l do, but if others don't, l don't think JAiLING them is the answer, or fining them. That's ridiculous.
But evidently you do.
tp480
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Give me sources and by the way, QAnon, Briebart, or any other right source don’t count!
DudeNY12
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-n...tes-monday/h_d2cc463535fb71bb3b480be6b07690a5
Oooo!!! Sure he has a stack of draft deferments, but what a tough guy he is ripping his face mask off in that photo op. Lol!
Oooo!!! Sure he has a stack of draft deferments, but what a tough guy he is ripping his face mask off in that photo op. Lol!
Bliss
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Well here is a thread with loads of info..
https://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/...urgeon-general-tells-americans-and-why.30032/
Also:
During the recent 2019-2020 winter flu season, the CDC estimates as many as 56 million people got sick with the flu and 62,000 died.
https://www.aappublications.org/news/2020/08/21/fludeaths082120
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
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And just for some perspective for you in numbers of medical deaths, (all the while not shutting our economy down and causing suicides, depression, anxiety, family separations and sudden poverty to millions)..
Medical errors cause an estimated 250,000 deaths in the United States annually.
https://mymedicalscore.com/medical-error-statistics/
Sepsis Kills 250,000 Americans Per Year.
https://www.newsweek.com/cancer-drugs-could-treat-deadly-sepsis-687931
Heart conditions remain the leading cause of death in the United States, responsible for 840,768 deaths (635,260 cardiac) in 2016.
https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardi.../aha-2019-heart-disease-and-stroke-statistics
Cancer is the second leading cause of death in the United States. In 2018, there were 599,274 cancer deaths; 283,721 were among females and 315,553 among males.
Breast cancer alone kills 50,000 women a year.
https://www.cdc.gov/cancer/dcpc/research/update-on-cancer-deaths/index.htm
tp480
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Wow you went to a legitimate source. I’m in impressed!! I thought I was going to get the Fox News racists sermon echo chamber. So when asked for sources, I didn’t mean a bunch of statistics, I meant your source of news. Because this whole time you have been parroting right wing nonsense and gibberish.