Cheaters

Flyingeek said:
I think you interpret the comments you got from the women completely wrong.
I think most women on here only have an issue with your excuse of genetics... not the "side pussy" thing per se..... two completely different things.
Most women on here are pretty darn open minded - the issue most took, including quite a few men - wasnt "side pussy", but blaming it on genetics.

The other thing you said - not thinking women can discuss the issue so you dismissed a whole gender by not acctualy take into account what they acctually said - you acctualy made yourself guilty of doing exaclty what you blamed the women of doing.

Do you, nothing wrong with it at all - but be straigh about it and own it...


When it comes to the Tiger thing... it went into divorces in general and as far as I read it - women were trying to give you new things to think about that you clearly didnt think of.. that you acctually said was valuable etc. I dont think a lot of women here do believe taking 75% or 50% or 25% of someones worth just because is honorable.. but it was an attempt to make you open your eyes a bit to issues that are important to at least evaluate.

I dont get the American system where you get money (and a lot of it) automatically - thats just plain wrong.. seemed to me most women on here agreed.
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FG I didn't discount anyone but we have had at least three threads where cheating was theme and I heard the same pov every single time. I decided to make a mens only thread based on past posts not discrimination. Sometimes the men won't be honest out of respect or fear of what you guys might say. Even Karma felt it necessary to point out that my stock has gone down with women in this forum. Luckily for me I'm less concerned with popularity and more concerned about honesty. I bring up certain topics to get different perspectives and admittedly I probably worded my thread title wrong because of course no one wants to be betrayed but I think a major thing for so many guys is thr want/need for other pussy. It has to be instinctual otherwise soooo many men wouldn't be willing to do it.
Think about the concept of glory holes, there are men out there willing to put there penis ina hole based on the hope that something good will happen. There's nothing like that in the female world. I think the need for side is such a foreign concept for most women that it makes it difficult for them to relate. Most women grow up wanting to find one dick they can fuck a thousand times most men want to find a thousand women to fuck once.
But honestly I apologize if I came across as rude but there are certain things we as men and women will feel differently on based on our sex.
 
andrae09 said:
FG I didn't discount anyone but we have had at least three threads where cheating was theme and I heard the same pov every single time. I decided to make a mens only thread based on past posts not discrimination. Sometimes the men won't be honest out of respect or fear of what you guys might say. Even Karma felt it necessary to point out that my stock has gone down with women in this forum. Luckily for me I'm less concerned with popularity and more concerned about honesty. I bring up certain topics to get different perspectives and admittedly I probably worded my thread title wrong because of course no one wants to be betrayed but I think a major thing for so many guys is thr want/need for other pussy. It has to be instinctual otherwise soooo many men wouldn't be willing to do it.
Think about the concept of glory holes, there are men out there willing to put there penis ina hole based on the hope that something good will happen. There's nothing like that in the female world. I think the need for side is such a foreign concept for most women that it makes it difficult for them to relate. Most women grow up wanting to find one dick they can fuck a thousand times most men want to find a thousand women to fuck once.
But honestly I apologize if I came across as rude but there are certain things we as men and women will feel differently on based on our sex.
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Honestly my opinion of you hasn't changed one bit. I understand what you seek, I understand why you seek it, I have no issue with you asking anything you like. I also know you never set out to offend the women here, sometimes it's just the wording or overall tone of the message that makes it come off wrong, but I understand the place you are coming from.

I will say that I don't think you are going to find the answer you seek here, but I also don't think the answer you seek is correct, though you'd disagree on that I'm sure. Like I said I have a theory, and I've given it a lot of thought over the past few days, and I'm now fairly certain it's a solid theory.
 
Espy said:
Honestly my opinion of you hasn't changed one bit. I understand what you seek, I understand why you seek it, I have no issue with you asking anything you like. I also know you never set out to offend the women here, sometimes it's just the wording or overall tone of the message that makes it come off wrong, but I understand the place you are coming from.

I will say that I don't think you are going to find the answer you seek here, but I also don't think the answer you seek is correct, though you'd disagree on that I'm sure. Like I said I have a theory, and I've given it a lot of thought over the past few days, and I'm now fairly certain it's a solid theory.
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cosign this 100%!!!!!!
 
Brotha Ajax said:
Cheating is fucked up. Simple.
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archangel said:
I'll never understand how people can dress up like that and think they will be taken serious.

Also the hat does not match the shirt. He has to move it to the right side.
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I wonder if, when he was smiling while this picture was taken, it hurt when those corners of each star was stabbing him on each side of his nose.
 
FRESH said:
You bring up very good points.

That's right your in Africa, how is it?
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I was, I already returned. Let me say so- it was interesting..I couldn't go back the last 18 months to Guinea because of the political situation and the person in charge. Also my partners there had a lot of difficulties and left. Now I was going there, because the situation changed and of the elections and to see my people again. All is mixed up new there, but the elections are not over, there comes a new one in July. Hopefully in a peaceful way.

The situation for the people hasn't changed. These kind of countries are beautiful,but still life is very cruel there.

To the topic.. I think that the imagination of an open relationship should be defined. I was and do live open relationships, but it would not be possible for me to be confronted directly with his girls. It's one discussion you lead and afterwards you never talk about it anymore. I know, he knows, but if we are together, I do not talk on the phone with another man in front of him, or arrange rendezvous or let him know about my last night with some one else.

The time we are together- is our time, when I left..I am free.
 
christine dubois said:
I was, I already returned. Let me say so- it was interesting..I couldn't go back the last 18 months to Guinea because of the political situation and the person in charge. Also my partners there had a lot of difficulties and left. Now I was going there, because the situation changed and of the elections and to see my people again. All is mixed up new there, but the elections are not over, there comes a new one in July. Hopefully in a peaceful way.

The situation for the people hasn't changed. These kind of countries are beautiful,but still life is very cruel there.

To the topic.. I think that the imagination of an open relationship should be defined. I was and do live open relationships, but it would not be possible for me to be confronted directly with his girls. It's one discussion you lead and afterwards you never talk about it anymore. I know, he knows, but if we are together, I do not talk on the phone with another man in front of him, or arrange rendezvous or let him know about my last night with some one else.

The time we are together- is our time, when I left..I am free.
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so great to see that you're around and okay c...!!! i miss you when you're not here
 
Tarshibear said:
so great to see that you're around and okay c...!!! i miss you when you're not here
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I am always ok- more or less:cool:- I was very nervous, too, but I have very protective friends everywhere, no reason to worry, my wonderful australian lady.. all ok with you and your sweet babes?:smt057
 
christine dubois said:
I was, I already returned. Let me say so- it was interesting..I couldn't go back the last 18 months to Guinea because of the political situation and the person in charge. Also my partners there had a lot of difficulties and left. Now I was going there, because the situation changed and of the elections and to see my people again. All is mixed up new there, but the elections are not over, there comes a new one in July. Hopefully in a peaceful way.

The situation for the people hasn't changed. These kind of countries are beautiful,but still life is very cruel there.

To the topic.. I think that the imagination of an open relationship should be defined. I was and do live open relationships, but it would not be possible for me to be confronted directly with his girls. It's one discussion you lead and afterwards you never talk about it anymore. I know, he knows, but if we are together, I do not talk on the phone with another man in front of him, or arrange rendezvous or let him know about my last night with some one else.

The time we are together- is our time, when I left..I am free.
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Man, I could not do what you do. I need a woman with 100% loyalty to me.:smt043 I am glad that you can find a man that can do it. I have questions for you but I don't want to offend.
 
christine dubois said:
I am always ok- more or less:cool:- I was very nervous, too, but I have very protective friends everywhere, no reason to worry, my wonderful australian lady.. all ok with you and your sweet babes?:smt057
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alls wonderful over here beautiful one :D cannot wait til august...!!! :smt026
 
archangel said:
Man, I could not do what you do. I need a woman with 100% loyalty to me.:smt043 I am glad that you can find a man that can do it. I have questions for you but I don't want to offend.
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It depends on, which type of person you are. Men and women. I can be monogam- if I meet a man, who convinces me that he is "worth" of it. But many men in my age 35-50 see there love life different. Some of them are divorced with children, others were never able to have a colsed relationship.

For me, I have an open and very trustful relation to wonderful men. And loyality- I could trust each of them with my life- just not with my heart.

But of course, ask me, what you want to know.
 
christine dubois said:
It depends on, which type of person you are. Men and women. I can be monogam- if I meet a man, who convinces me that he is "worth" of it. But many men in my age 35-50 see there love life different. Some of them are divorced with children, others were never able to have a colsed relationship.

For me, I have an open and very trustful relation to wonderful men. And loyality- I could trust each of them with my life- just not with my heart.

But of course, ask me, what you want to know.
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I sure missed you Christine! Such an honest, mature, open mind... and so much wisdom to impart.
 
christine dubois said:
It depends on, which type of person you are. Men and women. I can be monogam- if I meet a man, who convinces me that he is "worth" of it. But many men in my age 35-50 see there love life different. Some of them are divorced with children, others were never able to have a colsed relationship.

For me, I have an open and very trustful relation to wonderful men. And loyality- I could trust each of them with my life- just not with my heart.

But of course, ask me, what you want to know.
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For me, Love is unique. It is to be given to only one person. If I were to have multiple partners, I'd treat my connection as if it were nothing. as if it was like every day breathing. I don't quite understand how you are able to do this without it just being a common thing as if it is not unique.

I tried to explain this to the best of my ability without being offensive and explaining emotions. Hopefully, I didn't offend.
 
archangel said:
For me, Love is unique. It is to be given to only one person. If I were to have multiple partners, I'd treat my connection as if it were nothing. as if it was like every day breathing. I don't quite understand how you are able to do this without it just being a common thing as if it is not unique.

I tried to explain this to the best of my ability without being offensive and explaining emotions. Hopefully, I didn't offend.
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First, you didn't offend me in any way- it's interesting to talk to you.

Every existing Love is unique- that's correct, but who says that Love is limited to one person? It is accepted to love my sister, brother, Mom , Dad, my children, my uncle and and and, but it's not accepted to love different men. Why is my love less worth, because I love somebody else, too? We support and protect each other much more than many couples I know.

The point is sexuality. Reproduction. We women have to be sure that the man does not leave us, men have to be sure that they are the kids father. That is something I can follow and something I understand, this is another agreement, if you want to build a family together.
On the other hand-nobody can demand or force more from some one else as this person is able to give. But nevertheless this person is worthful.

Unique - is a great word, but you know, it's reserved for one single person, who fits to you like no one else. In my life, I've met this person- and even now that we are divorced and he is married again, he is still (platonically) the closest person to me. Of course, as I said, should I be lucky and meet a unique peron for me again, I would take that chance with full consequences, but unfortunatly, you don't find them every day or every year.
 
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andrae09 said:
I wouldn't like it if someone cheated but if they wanted to get some side dick I would be totally ok with it. The only guidelines would be they use condoms, they make me aware of every encounter before they do it for safety reasons and they are only allowed to hook up with that person no more than three times in any given year. I'm not under the impression that ill ever be all one person needs and if I love them I would like to think I could put aside my jealousy for their happiness.
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Personally, I couldn't handle the side dick/pussy issue in an open relationship; however, that doesn't mean that your views on it are wrong. They are just different than mine. One of the reasons that I would have a problem with it is that you never know who you are truly getting involved with and how they may react if they become 'hooked' on you or your spouse. I've been involved in a few sex-only relationships when I was in my 20s. I was in college and just didn't want to be involved in a monogamous relationship. With the exception of one of my sex-only relationships that I was involved in, the guys ended up 'catching feelings.' I would come home to either one of them on my doorstep waiting for me because they just wanted to see me or multiple messages on my answering machine telling me that they loved me and wanted more. How do you know for sure that your one-night stand might not fall in 'love' and then try to ruin your life when your love is not reciprocated? Unfortunately, there are some crazy men and women in this world that would do anything to destroy someone's family or life if they aren't getting what they want in return. Personally, I just feel that if you are in a relationship that's happy; why would you want to chance losing everything for a few fleeting moments of pleasure.
 
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