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pettyofficerj said:
This is how it plays out in the new52 version of justice league in the comics, sorta

Batman and green lantern take turns fighting him, but it doesn't go well as you can imagine

Batman ends up using his bag of tricks, but one by one supes just laughs it off

With the man of steel tho, people have already been exposed to superman I think

I can't remember if batman actually knew about him and what he stood for in the new52 justice league origins before going on the offensive
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The new52 is the best way to go imo. I believe this movie is going to be tbe building of trust and partnerships between the two. So that when they do come to blows i bet very briefly it will have some weight. So far they haven't mentioned if batman knows about superman in mos so we can assume he learns of him in this movie. This story is going to continue into the justice league movie so by the time justice league is over batman would have proven superman and then we get to the brother like relationship we know. But that has to start somewhere.
 
The Dark King said:
Exactly. That movie was stupid on so many levels. You could also argue how the hell Zod was able to learn and utilize his powers so damn quickly. They could have done a much better job with that movie. The original Superman II was way better and made much more sense. Even though I wish they could cast a decent Lois Lane. It's sad when the tv shows do a much better job than the movies.
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If u ask me its bc clark grew up on earth with no knowledge of what was happening to him. His powers were maybe depending on his age as they came slowly. Zod was already an aldult when he arrived so his body may have been able to adapt more quickly. With that being said clark had more knowledge on how to use said powers which is why he was able to win. For example zod was a warrior on the battlefield in krypton not a street fight on earth. Maywether may be a beast but u get him on the street where anything goes and suddenly hes not so legendary.
 
The Dark King said:
Batman has beaten the shit out of Superman. I remember that comic and the one line I remember that stood out was "Remember who beat you Clark"
I remember Sup on his back bleeding all over his S. It was an awesome moment, it was a fuck your powers moment because with all those powers all it takes is a little green rock and your ass is mine
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In the two-part animated Dark Knight film, Batman was prepping for a fight with Superman(who became a right-wing stooge) and he gives Superman a run for his money(along with Oliver Queen and a Kryptonite tipped arrow) until he "died." Superman says, "Bruce, your heart!"

Superman is aware that Batman has a supply of Kryptonite in his possession and he trusts Batman to use it against him. Sort of a "No one stops me but Batman" moment. But in a fight, that is all Batman needs to stop Superman.
 
That's the likely outcome since that movie will be the set up for the upcoming Justice League movie, as you've stated in this post. Well stated, my friend.

MixedSuperman said:
The new52 is the best way to go imo. I believe this movie is going to be tbe building of trust and partnerships between the two. So that when they do come to blows i bet very briefly it will have some weight. So far they haven't mentioned if batman knows about superman in mos so we can assume he learns of him in this movie. This story is going to continue into the justice league movie so by the time justice league is over batman would have proven superman and then we get to the brother like relationship we know. But that has to start somewhere.
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Right. Basically, Superman just let Batman win since it Supes have the tendency to hold back a lot. I think he understands that, both as someone he admires and trusts, which is no easy feat and I think Batman could see that altogether.

Gorath said:
In the two-part animated Dark Knight film, Batman was prepping for a fight with Superman(who became a right-wing stooge) and he gives Superman a run for his money(along with Oliver Queen and a Kryptonite tipped arrow) until he "died." Superman says, "Bruce, your heart!"

Superman is aware that Batman has a supply of Kryptonite in his possession and he trusts Batman to use it against him. Sort of a "No one stops me but Batman" moment. But in a fight, that is all Batman needs to stop Superman.
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Morning Star said:
That's the likely outcome since that movie will be the set up for the upcoming Justice League movie, as you've stated in this post. Well stated, my friend.



Right. Basically, Superman just let Batman win since it Supes have the tendency to hold back a lot. I think he understands that, both as someone he admires and trusts, which is no easy feat and I think Batman could see that altogether.
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I think Batman is aware that Superman could kill him if he didn't hold back in battle. Superman is aware that humans are fragile and he was raised to preserve life and not take it(Man Of Steel was a total departure to this rule when he kills General Zod. But it was Zod or the humans that Zod was about to kill). While Superman's compassion for life is considered a weakness that can easily be exploited(Darkseid exploits it a lot), it is one of his greatest strengths. Batman has the warrior's mindset, but, despite all his skill sets, Batman would never intentionally take a human life. He would not take Superman's life. He would only stop him with the Kryptonite.
 
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Superman has killed before in the earlier days of the early comics, but I think with the movie, it has presented an extra layer of morality regarding the cost-benefit analysis - kill one to save many....which is unexpected on the Man of Steel's part, I know.

And Batman was known to kill in the early comics. However, that all changed when the writers decided that killing off characters would be redundant and ideas would run out.

Gorath said:
I think Batman is aware that Superman could kill him if he didn't hold back in battle. Superman is aware that humans are fragile and he was raised to preserve life and not take it(Man Of Steel was a total departure to this rule when he kills General Zod. But it was Zod or the humans that Zod was about to kill). While Superman's compassion for life is considered a weakness that can easily be exploited(Darkseid exploits it a lot), it is one of his greatest strengths. Batman has the warrior's mindset, but, despite all his skill sets, Batman would never intentionally take a human life. He would not take Superman's life. He would only stop him with the Kryptonite.
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I had no problem with superman killing in the situation that was presented. That has always been supermans golden rule. Instead of just following what came before it was nice to see where this golden rule originated from and how it will affect his mindset on the way to becoming the superman we know.
 
Speaking of comics, all this talk is making me want to continue where I left off

Was last reading new 52 versions of justice league and green lantern

Now u see why I'm all nerdy over the live action DC shows
 
pettyofficerj said:
Speaking of comics, all this talk is making me want to continue where I left off

Was last reading new 52 versions of justice league and green lantern

Now u see why I'm all nerdy over the live action DC shows
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I am holding out for forever evil on animated film. I got to admit that it was the first time I rooted for lex luthor.
 
archangel said:
sorry but that is wherre I started caring about the JL in new 52. I felt most of it was garbage until that lead up. I'm trying to figure out how batman will deal with lex not to mention the show down to get his son back.
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Guess you haven't heard what they will be doing with Damien then. Stupid is all I can say.
 
MixedSuperman said:
I had no problem with superman killing in the situation that was presented. That has always been supermans golden rule. Instead of just following what came before it was nice to see where this golden rule originated from and how it will affect his mindset on the way to becoming the superman we know.
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Of course, that was before Doomsday, a fellow Kryptonian.
 
Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange? Nothing confirmed yet but early speculation has surfaced that Marvel has him in final talks for the role.


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Morning Star said:
Superman has killed before in the earlier days of the early comics, but I think with the movie, it has presented an extra layer of morality regarding the cost-benefit analysis - kill one to save many....which is unexpected on the Man of Steel's part, I know.

And Batman was known to kill in the early comics. However, that all changed when the writers decided that killing off characters would be redundant and ideas would run out.
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I remembered being shocked when I read the early Batman comic collections. I was very surprised at how much of a psychotic killer Joker was as opposed to how he was portrayed on the tv show and cartoons.
 
Ra said:
Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange? Nothing confirmed yet but early speculation has surfaced that Marvel has him in final talks for the role.


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Good choice. I hope they don't try to make him do an American accent.
 
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