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The bully Richie Incognito is considered "honorary black" by some Miami black NFLers, lmao.

That dirt bag is viewed as black or a n* or whatever word they use to characterize brotherhood in the locker room, he probably felt he had the latitude to leave such an outrageous voicemail, unfucken believable

Martin is considered "soft" by his teammates and that's a reason he's not readily accepted by some of the players, particularly the black players. His background -- Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people -- was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some black players and it perpetuated in the way Martin carried himself.

Its funny Martin has a background more like Barack Obama. They don't like Martin because he's not "black enough" but they vote for and support Obama to the death because he is black. The only problem is Martin = Obama!

Sometimes folks don't make any sense, especially blk folks. Come on brothers let's get our shit together.
 
Broken Cowboy said:
The bully Richie Incognito is considered "honorary black" by some Miami black NFLers, lmao.

That dirt bag is viewed as black or a n* or whatever word they use to characterize brotherhood in the locker room, he probably felt he had the latitude to leave such an outrageous voicemail, unfucken believable

Martin is considered "soft" by his teammates and that's a reason he's not readily accepted by some of the players, particularly the black players. His background -- Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people -- was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some black players and it perpetuated in the way Martin carried himself.

Its funny Martin has a background more like Barack Obama. They don't like Martin because he's not "black enough" but they vote for and support Obama to the death because he is black. The only problem is Martin = Obama!

Sometimes folks don't make any sense, especially blk folks. Come on brothers let's get our shit together.
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bc...we have the same thing going on right here on this site...the men here treat panario like he isn't black enough every time they disagree with what his posts
 
lippy said:
bc...we have the same thing going on right here on this site...the men here treat panario like he isn't black enough every time they disagree with what his posts
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Please.......there are plenty of educated and well spoken black men on this site like Loki and Orejon, do we treat them like they are not black enough?? Btw Panerio is not nearly articulate as either of those two. Talk about reaching........
 
Beasty said:
Please.......there are plenty of educated and well spoken black men on this site like Loki and Orejon, do we treat them like they are not black enough?? Btw Panerio is not nearly articulate as either of those two. Talk about reaching........
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did you read what broken cowboy wrote? evidently not...what is it with reading comprehension around here...black men having black mens backs...can a person not have an opinion? if it's different than yours? I see you all using the n word...calling each other uncle ruckus...what the hell is uplifting your brothers in that hot mess...I guess I just don't get it:smt009
 
It's not really a matter of having a difference of opinion in certain matters as much how individuals often approach or carry themselves. Based on Paniro's past, he simply post an article or video, often incredulous and expect us to just engage in something. Often times, it would lead to intellectual dishonesty on his end, which is why many people on the forums are quick to pounce on him.

So, no...it's less to do with questioning "his blackness" and more to do with if he's willing to engage in a conversation. Sure, he recently did a back and forth video debate with TDK, but I wonder where that went off....?

I personally admire him for overcoming so much in his life, but when it comes to debates? He doesn't really hold his own so well, thus his credibility is put into questioning.

lippy said:
bc...we have the same thing going on right here on this site...the men here treat panario like he isn't black enough every time they disagree with what his posts
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Morning Star said:
It's not really a matter of having a difference of opinion in certain matters as much how individuals often approach or carry themselves. Based on Paniro's past, he simply post an article or video, often incredulous and expect us to just engage in something. Often times, it would lead to intellectual dishonesty on his end, which is why many people on the forums are quick to pounce on him.

So, no...it's less to do with questioning "his blackness" and more to do with if he's willing to engage in a conversation. Sure, he recently did a back and forth video debate with TDK, but I wonder where that went off....?

I personally admire him for overcoming so much in his life, but when it comes to debates? He doesn't really hold his own so well, thus his credibility is put into questioning.
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you have experienced quite a bit of hazing and bullying yourself here on the site...more to do with the blue waffles. scary links, obsession with poop etc...

I see you post things and sit back and wait for shock value as well...so how is that different? I wonder if people just don't take you seriously because of the things you post...
 
I never felt bullied, nor hazed at all. It's a defense mechanism that often made people question my sanity. And you're right, I do it for reactions and shock...which sort of serve as my "life force" to rejuvenate my very existence.

But regarding the difference...it's pretty simple...

Religion and politics can bring out the worst in people because of the strong convictions people hold to be self evident. It's hard to maintain civility when you're certain that you're in the right and the others are in the wrong. In this game of politics, to be specific, you need to realize that people won't like what you say, but it's a much stronger character to hold firm in your convictions.

That's a lot more volatile than a person who facetiously turn heads for the sake of "the lulz".

lippy said:
you have experienced quite a bit of hazing and bullying yourself here on the site...more to do with the blue waffles. scary links, obsession with poop etc...

I see you post things and sit back and wait for shock value as well...so how is that different? I wonder if people just don't take you seriously because of the things you post...
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Morning Star said:
I never felt bullied, nor hazed at all. It's a defense mechanism that often made people question my sanity. And you're right, I do it for reactions and shock...which sort of serve as my "life force" to rejuvenate my very existence.

But regarding the difference...it's pretty simple...

Religion and politics can bring out the worst in people because of the strong convictions people hold to be self evident. It's hard to maintain civility when you're certain that you're in the right and the others are in the wrong. In this game of politics, to be specific, you need to realize that people won't like what you say, but it's a much stronger character to hold firm in your convictions.

That's a lot more volatile than a person who facetiously turn heads for the sake of "the lulz".
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politics & religion can get really messy which is why I try to stay away from those topics...unless I am in the company of like minded people...a heated debate can close down a dinner party faster than if the cook burned something
 
Of course...but it can be deescalated with the right procedures...in other words...some heavy laughter to lighten the mood up.

lippy said:
politics & religion can get really messy which is why I try to stay away from those topics...unless I am in the company of like minded people...a heated debate can close down a dinner party faster than if the cook burned something
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Morning Star said:
Of course...but it can be deescalated with the right procedures...in other words...some heavy laughter to lighten the mood up.
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always invite the funniest person you know to a dinner party...keep them laughing and they won't even now what you served for dinner:cool:
 
lippy said:
a. you don't live in Colorado
b. I didn't know you were funny
c. all your curious friends ruined it for you

should I go on:smt037
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a. thats a flight away
b. there is a lot you dont know
c. fuckin aye!

no, just stay the spunky amazing person you are.
 
lippy said:
did you read what broken cowboy wrote? evidently not...what is it with reading comprehension around here...black men having black mens backs...can a person not have an opinion? if it's different than yours? I see you all using the n word...calling each other uncle ruckus...what the hell is uplifting your brothers in that hot mess...I guess I just don't get it:smt009
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So you can see the problem with the n word, but you dont see the problem with someone that has a disdain for black people, simply because he does not use the n word? Interesting. If that fictional equivalency you made is truly your personal opinion, mabe you just dont care enough to "get it".
 
Beasty said:
Please.......there are plenty of educated and well spoken black men on this site like Loki and Orejon, do we treat them like they are not black enough?? Btw Panerio is not nearly articulate as either of those two. Talk about reaching........
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Morning Star said:
It's not really a matter of having a difference of opinion in certain matters as much how individuals often approach or carry themselves. Based on Paniro's past, he simply post an article or video, often incredulous and expect us to just engage in something. Often times, it would lead to intellectual dishonesty on his end, which is why many people on the forums are quick to pounce on him.

So, no...it's less to do with questioning "his blackness" and more to do with if he's willing to engage in a conversation. Sure, he recently did a back and forth video debate with TDK, but I wonder where that went off....?

I personally admire him for overcoming so much in his life, but when it comes to debates? He doesn't really hold his own so well, thus his credibility is put into questioning.
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Its not that Paniro has a difference of opinion, James Wilson shares the same conservative views but can back up his assertions with logic and reason. You may disagree but you can never call dude a fool. Paniro on the other hand comes off as willfully obtuse when it comes to race. It's like he can only see the negative with black people and supports their second class treatment.
In our video debates dude just seems genuinely frustrated as he should because from a myopic view point I can see how the constant violence and never ending legal problems coupled with poor education fueled by a corporatist hip hop culture could skew your thoughts on us as people. His error in thinking usually comes from not seeing the base inequality and how it affects everything else from perceived criminality to misrepresented welfare depictions. He may also just like to shit stir like my boy Petty who knows lol.
 
Broken Cowboy said:
The bully Richie Incognito is considered "honorary black" by some Miami black NFLers, lmao.

That dirt bag is viewed as black or a n* or whatever word they use to characterize brotherhood in the locker room, he probably felt he had the latitude to leave such an outrageous voicemail, unfucken believable

Martin is considered "soft" by his teammates and that's a reason he's not readily accepted by some of the players, particularly the black players. His background -- Stanford educated and the son of highly educated people -- was not necessarily seen as a strength or a positive by some black players and it perpetuated in the way Martin carried himself.

Its funny Martin has a background more like Barack Obama. They don't like Martin because he's not "black enough" but they vote for and support Obama to the death because he is black. The only problem is Martin = Obama!

Sometimes folks don't make any sense, especially blk folks. Come on brothers let's get our shit together.
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Who is this we you speak of? Most educated bm, which is represented by most of the dudes here, don't ascribe to that bullshit.
 
Jameswilson is intellectually dishonest, and given his background in politics, his "logic" and "reason" are only confided to arguments which more geared towards partisan hackery. So, I can only call jameswilson a political hack, and less about relying on logic.

The Dark King said:
Its not that Paniro has a difference of opinion, James Wilson shares the same conservative views but can back up his assertions with logic and reason. You may disagree but you can never call dude a fool. Paniro on the other hand comes off as willfully obtuse when it comes to race. It's like he can only see the negative with black people and supports their second class treatment.
In our video debates dude just seems genuinely frustrated as he should because from a myopic view point I can see how the constant violence and never ending legal problems coupled with poor education fueled by a corporatist hip hop culture could skew your thoughts on us as people. His error in thinking usually comes from not seeing the base inequality and how it affects everything else from perceived criminality to misrepresented welfare depictions. He may also just like to shit stir like my boy Petty who knows lol.
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