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I'm confused here. Is the background photshopped or did they do a WW & BP collab event that I didn't hear about? lol.
 
I have no problem with Shuri taking over. As of now, I'm dubious about recasting T'Challa. Imagine recasting Superman in 1982 if Christopher Reeve had just died (I'm showing my age here lol). John David Washington is on my short list too tho!

Yes, losing T'Challa hurts. I wish this wasn't so. But maybe this is an opportunity to create a new character who wouldn't have existed otherwise. Or maybe this gets us a good Luke Cage movie.

I'm curious what your opinions are about this scenario:
- Marvel comic writers immediately start writing "The Death of T'Challa" for the comic book canon and create a new male successor to the mantle
- the MCU goes ahead with giving Shuri the Black Panther mantle in BP2
- BP2 includes CGI footage of Chadwick Boseman, giving him a send off similar to Paul Walker in Furious 7
- M'Baku's role is played up in BP2 to properly include strong positive black male energy in the film (making it a team up like Captain America/Black Widow in Winter Soldier or Captain Marvel/Nick Fury)
- Black Panther 3 sees a new male Black Panther who isn't T'Challa (the new character the comic writers created)

I got this proposed blueprint from a YouTuber named Grace Randolph. You can check it out for yourself. She actually did two videos on Chadwick Boseman today.

I'm ok with this. I'll would just skip BP 2 and wait for the 3rd installment. Make it T'Challa's nephew or something like that.
 
I'm ok with this. I'll would just skip BP 2 and wait for the 3rd installment. Make it T'Challa's nephew or something like that.
LOL! It's really that real for you huh??? Did Shuri kill your dog or something? Lol

Just joking, I know you hate a black man losing a prominent position to a black woman (or anyone else I assume). We just see this one differently.
 
LOL! It's really that real for you huh??? Did Shuri kill your dog or something? Lol

Just joking, I know you hate a black man losing a prominent position to a black woman (or anyone else I assume). We just see this one differently.
Just not interested and one installment isn't going to make much difference. I'm just as ok with it as you but I have enough movies and shows to catch up on so missing it isn't a big deal.
 
Of course they'll also do it for the sake of woke politics but Shuri DID have a run as BP. Can't ignore that and imo I think that should be what happens in BP 2. It is toooo early to be thinking about BP 3. I think they should just end after BP 3 though. Black Male heroes are still coming such as BLADE is still coming and I hope the silver lining in this is they SERIOUSLY start to explore The Blue Marvel in phase 4.

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Adam Brashear is ACTUALLY the first black superhero in the MARVEL universe being as though his story started in the 60s. Although he had to wear a mask.
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His battle with Hyperion was EPIC!
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He is absurdly underrated and POWERFUL and MCU writers and directors LOVE characters that are in the shadows. They have done a great job at taking underrated heroes and storyline and making them into something.



 
I have no problem with Shuri taking over. As of now, I'm dubious about recasting T'Challa. Imagine recasting Superman in 1982 if Christopher Reeve had just died (I'm showing my age here lol). John David Washington is on my short list too tho!

Yes, losing T'Challa hurts. I wish this wasn't so. But maybe this is an opportunity to create a new character who wouldn't have existed otherwise. Or maybe this gets us a good Luke Cage movie.

I'm curious what your opinions are about this scenario:
- Marvel comic writers immediately start writing "The Death of T'Challa" for the comic book canon and create a new male successor to the mantle
- the MCU goes ahead with giving Shuri the Black Panther mantle in BP2
- BP2 includes CGI footage of Chadwick Boseman, giving him a send off similar to Paul Walker in Furious 7
- M'Baku's role is played up in BP2 to properly include strong positive black male energy in the film (making it a team up like Captain America/Black Widow in Winter Soldier or Captain Marvel/Nick Fury)
- Black Panther 3 sees a new male Black Panther who isn't T'Challa (the new character the comic writers created)

I got this proposed blueprint from a YouTuber named Grace Randolph. You can check it out for yourself. She actually did two videos on Chadwick Boseman today.


With all due respect, I really don't like any of those options. Since Chadwick Boseman and T'Challa were not actually the same person, there is absolutely no reason to kill off the character because of Chadwick's untimely death. Film roles don't belong to anyone particular actor or actress (even iconic ones)

I don't want to sound sexist or disrespectful to Black Women but I think the symbolism of Black Panther was more important to black men specifically than to black people as a whole. I don't think a lot of people realize how few images of Black male leadership there are in pop culture. There are already too many images of black communities lacking male leadership in the media, it would be a shame to take away one of the few instances that buck away from that.

M'Baku was cool and all but he was inferior to T'Challa, to have him be the sole representation of Male energy would be like having Robin permanently take over for Batman. No matter how badass he is, he still would pale in comparison to the OG hero.

CGI would actually kind of piss me off and I don't think I'd be alone in that, remember the uproar when it was suggested that Carrie Fisher would be CGI in Star Wars Ep9. I think the uproar for a computer-generated Chadwick Boseman would be ten times bigger.

Whichever way they choose to go forward it will be a while. So hopefully, time will make it clear what the best decision is.
 
With all due respect, I really don't like any of those options. Since Chadwick Boseman and T'Challa were not actually the same person, there is absolutely no reason to kill off the character because of Chadwick's untimely death. Film roles don't belong to anyone particular actor or actress (even iconic ones)

I don't want to sound sexist or disrespectful to Black Women but I think the symbolism of Black Panther was more important to black men specifically than to black people as a whole. I don't think a lot of people realize how few images of Black male leadership there are in pop culture. There are already too many images of black communities lacking male leadership in the media, it would be a shame to take away one of the few instances that buck away from that.

M'Baku was cool and all but he was inferior to T'Challa, to have him be the sole representation of Male energy would be like having Robin permanently take over for Batman. No matter how badass he is, he still would pale in comparison to the OG hero.

CGI would actually kind of piss me off and I don't think I'd be alone in that, remember the uproar when it was suggested that Carrie Fisher would be CGI in Star Wars Ep9. I think the uproar for a computer-generated Chadwick Boseman would be ten times bigger.

Whichever way they choose to go forward it will be a while. So hopefully, time will make it clear what the best decision is.
Time is definitely a major factor here. I mentioned in an earlier post that all this could look different next year when we're not as close to this tragedy.
 
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Of course they'll also do it for the sake of woke politics but Shuri DID have a run as BP. Can't ignore that and imo I think that should be what happens in BP 2. It is toooo early to be thinking about BP 3. I think they should just end after BP 3 though. Black Male heroes are still coming such as BLADE is still coming and I hope the silver lining in this is they SERIOUSLY start to explore The Blue Marvel in phase 4.

blue_marvel.jpg


Adam Brashear is ACTUALLY the first black superhero in the MARVEL universe being as though his story started in the 60s. Although he had to wear a mask.
0*oYxJfTU2nfjt-_tL.jpg



His battle with Hyperion was EPIC!
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He is absurdly underrated and POWERFUL and MCU writers and directors LOVE characters that are in the shadows. They have done a great job at taking underrated heroes and storyline and making them into something.



I remember mentioning blue marvel months ago. As far as Shuri, if they go cannon, she did take up the mantle and she was a horrible ruler. She could do black panther things, but couldn't rule her nation.
 
I remember mentioning blue marvel months ago. As far as Shuri, if they go cannon, she did take up the mantle and she was a horrible ruler. She could do black panther things, but couldn't rule her nation.

They are not going to show a black woman who can't do it all.

My first thought is that it may actually make more sense to do the opposite. Make Shuri a better queen than warrior. That way you can easily have her pass on the Black Panther mantle. Recall that T'Chaka was still king in Civil War but T'Challa was already Black Panther.

But what's wrong with showing a black woman doing it all? Wasn't T'Challa a black man who could do it all? Everyone seemed cool with that.

Just my two cents
 
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My first thought is that it may actually make more sense to do the opposite. Make Shuri a better queen than warrior. That way you can easily have her pass on the Black Panther mantle. Recall that T'Chaka was still king in Civil War but T'Challa was already Black Panther.

But what's wrong with showing a black woman doing it all? Wasn't T'Challa a black man who could do it all? Everyone seemed cool with that.

Just my two cents
No. Stay honest. T'Challa is supposed to have a PhD in Physics from Oxford. That means genius. That's not what we seen in the movie. In the movie Shuri was the brains behind the tech.
 
I remember mentioning blue marvel months ago. As far as Shuri, if they go cannon, she did take up the mantle and she was a horrible ruler. She could do black panther things, but couldn't rule her nation.
They are not going to show a black woman who can't do it all.
My first thought is that it may actually make more sense to do the opposite. Make Shuri a better queen than warrior. That way you can easily have her pass on the Black Panther mantle. Recall that T'Chaka was still king in Civil War but T'Challa was already Black Panther.

But what's wrong with showing a black woman doing it all? Wasn't T'Challa a black man who could do it all? Everyone seemed cool with that.

Just my two cents

Nothing wrong with a black woman super hero. In fact Shuri has the charm, charisma and personality that have/will win over male audiences. It's the pandering and the disrespect that comes with it. When folks we're re-watching Black Panther having a what they called on twitter a #BlackPantherWatchParty in honor of Chadwick Boseman they quickly made the film about the black women.
When AWIT came out after BP did those numbers they were already trying to sell that movie as better than BP... and when it didn't do the numbers they expected(pshh... they wanted it to out do BP) they blamed it on black men for not supporting them. It's this silly battle of the sexes or sex war people get in that is the actual problem. Shuri as BP in BP 2 would work but of course they would have no choice but to elevate her even more because that's what businesses do... they pander to accumulate the money.
 
My first thought is that it may actually make more sense to do the opposite. Make Shuri a better queen than warrior. That way you can easily have her pass on the Black Panther mantle. Recall that T'Chaka was still king in Civil War but T'Challa was already Black Panther.

But what's wrong with showing a black woman doing it all? Wasn't T'Challa a black man who could do it all? Everyone seemed cool with that.

Just my two cents
Right or wrong isn't the point I'm making. I'm saying that it would open a can of social justice worms if they replaced the strong capable male hero with a female hero who couldn't live up to the job. Female characters in male-dominated genres are always portrayed as hyper-capable as a way to overcompensate, so you will almost never see a female who isn't as good as her male counterpart at anything.
 
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No. Stay honest. T'Challa is supposed to have a PhD in Physics from Oxford. That means genius. That's not what we seen in the movie. In the movie Shuri was the brains behind the tech.
Lol! You have a really good point there. I like to think T'Challa's intellect would've been played up in future outings, but we'll never know will we? His incredible education and intelligence is one of my very favorite things about him.
 
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