TRUMP Thread

This isn’t about climate and it isn’t about Trump’s base. It’s about sticking it to the leaders of Europe. That’s what gave the Bannonites the edge. That and one other thing.


  • Trump is scared. He’s entering a a widening gyre of political crisis over Russia. He’s scared and he’s angry and he needs friends. So he’s more and more likely to hug his base – both the most aggressive advisors and the most committed supporters. He’s trying to bring back Corey Lewandowski, his wildest and most troubling-driving advisor who has the unshakable loyalty and lickspittledom Trump now requires. Indeed, we can take it as a given that as the Russia scandal crisis deepens Trump will become more aggressive and more extreme in his policies both to maintain his emotional equilibrium and reinforce his backing from a shrinking base of supporters. This is as certain as night follows day.

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    Paris Decision Was Driven By the President’s Rage and Fear

 
Trump takes credit for 1 million jobs. Not true

President Trump proclaimed Thursday that he has created "more than 1 million private sector jobs."

"So where in the world does Trump get his 1 million figure?

Gary Cohn, Trump's top economic adviser, says the statistic comes from the ADP employment report. In other words, the the White House is ignoring its own government report.

"I'm standing by that if you add up the ADP numbers, you would get to the number the president put in his speech today," Cohn told CNN's Wolf Blitzer.

The latest ADP report came out Thursday -- the day of Trump's speech -- and it only measures private sector jobs. It shows 1.2 million private sector jobs added since the start of the year.

But there are two big catches.

First, the only way to get to Trump's figure is to include jobs added in January.

Trump was only president for 11 days in January.

It's unusual to give a new president credit for that month.

Second, ADP is just an estimate. It's not the real data.

ADP is a company that prints (or direct deposits) paychecks for about 24 million Americans.

A few days before the official Labor Department jobs data comes out, ADP puts out an estimate of how many jobs were added or lost based on what ADP is seeing in the hiring and firing patterns of companies that it works with."

http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/01/new...n-private-sector-jobs-paris-speech/index.html

 
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Dangerous North Korea just effectively test-launched its first intercontinental ballistic missile while Trumpy the Clown is preoccupied with settling scores via Tweets. Winning in America!
 
The greatest trick the modern Republican party has pulled is not that it has convinced people that their leaders (e.g. Trump, Mcconnell) are good people. Most people hate them, and Trump's approval is historically low for this point in a presidency. Instead, the trick was to convince everyone that all politicians suck, that they are all equally crooked, so who cares who's in charge because it's either one clown or the other clown.

I find this sentiment to be wide spread amongst many of my friends who are basically liberal, and I find it extremely frustrating. I don't mean to suggest Democrats are perfect or anything: far from it. But there definitely is a real difference, and I feel Republicans have worked very hard to give people the impression that it's all a clown show so people like my friends are demoralized and stay home. If one politician stole a thousand dollars but the other politician he's running against literally murdered someone, that murderer politician is going to work hard to frame it as "Well we're all criminals, so who cares who you vote for, right?"
 
bodhesatva said:
The greatest trick the modern Republican party has pulled is not that it has convinced people that their leaders (e.g. Trump, Mcconnell) are good people. Most people hate them, and Trump's approval is historically low for this point in a presidency. Instead, the trick was to convince everyone that all politicians suck, that they are all equally crooked, so who cares who's in charge because it's either one clown or the other clown.

I find this sentiment to be wide spread amongst many of my friends who are basically liberal, and I find it extremely frustrating. I don't mean to suggest Democrats are perfect or anything: far from it. But there definitely is a real difference, and I feel Republicans have worked very hard to give people the impression that it's all a clown show so people like my friends are demoralized and stay home. If one politician stole a thousand dollars but the other politician he's running against literally murdered someone, that murderer politician is going to work hard to frame it as "Well we're all criminals, so who cares who you vote for, right?"
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In terms of politics this is literally the smartest post I've ever read on here.
So much truth
 
"The greatest trick the modern Republican party has pulled is not that it has convinced people that their leaders (e.g. Trump, Mcconnell) are good people. Most people hate them, and Trump's approval is historically low for this point in a presidency. Instead, the trick was to convince everyone that all politicians suck, that they are all equally crooked, so who cares who's in charge because it's either one clown or the other clown."

The lesser of two evils
 
MightyLighty said:
The lesser of two evils
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Yeah. I agree with the sentiment to an extent, but I hear a lot of my friends use this phrase to explain why they simply won't vote -- because they're tired of voting for "the lesser of two evils."

And again, there is some truth to that, but it's also true that no politician will ever agree with everything I believe, because we're all human and no two humans have exactly the same beliefs. So while my friends' position sounds noble, in practice it means they're waiting for some mythical politician to come along who doesn't make mistakes and who they agree with on everything. Which means they basically never vote because no such politician exists.

Politics is always about compromise. Hilary Clinton certainly made some major mistakes, and I don't agree with her on everything, but I certainly agree with her a heck of a lot more than I do Trump, and if I wait around for the perfect politician I will die of old age. And in the meantime, the conservative white people who vote no matter what will just keep on winning.
 
Reverie said:
The thing with Trump is that I am actually surprised nobody haven't tried to kill him yet.
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45 is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. It would be great if we could seperate from everyone that voted for him. He can stay actually, I'd be happier to be seperated from his supporters.
 
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