Peach State Scholar
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You KNOW it's bad for Trump when even Fox News starts calling him out on his constant, non-stop lying. https://twitter.com/TeamCavuto/status/992147250934702080?s=20
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Peach State Scholar
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Good looking out. I wish there was a way to post vids from Twitter on this page. I posted mine before I could even find a YouTube link.
ColiBreh1
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Y'all see this story about Vanessa Trump dated a Latin King gang member for 5 years before Donald Trump JR wifed her?:
https://pagesix.com/2018/05/08/vanessa-trumps-first-love-was-member-of-violent-street-gang/
https://pagesix.com/2018/05/08/vanessa-trumps-first-love-was-member-of-violent-street-gang/
Vanessa Trump’s prom date for senior year at her $47,000-a-year Upper West Side prep school dressed up for the big occasion in a tuxedo, a bow tie — and a necklace in the black-and-gold colors of the Latin Kings, a street gang he had joined in an upstate prison.
Vanessa — who became part of America’s first family in 2017 as the wife of Donald Trump Jr. — was known at the Dwight School for her bright smile, model looks and outstanding ability on its tennis courts. But on weekends, she drove high school sweetheart Valentin Rivera — who has since served various prison terms for assault, weapons offenses and negligent homicide — to the Lower East Side, where he led meetings of his chapter of the gang.
And in an exclusive interview, Rivera told Page Six how Vanessa would help him drop off weed to friends by driving him around in her stepfather’s convertible with an illegal gun in the trunk.
Her school friends came to fear Rivera. “If anybody disrespected her in any way, I would physically put my hands on them,” Rivera told us. “Any types of disrespect — call out her name, mess with her, anything.”
Even their first meeting — around fifth grade at P.S. 158 at 77th Street and York Avenue, Rivera recalls — was tinged with trouble. “We was in the carnival in the school and I hit her with a water balloon, and she told on me. I went to the principal’s office,” Rivera, who grew up in a 79th Street building where his dad was the super, told us. “Then we parted ways until a couple of years later.”
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Valentin RiveraAnnie Wermiel/NY Post
In those intervening years, Rivera got in trouble for fighting with neighborhood kids, and was sent to Highland Residential Center outside Poughkeepsie, NY. “I came home from juvie, then I met her again,” he says of Vanessa, who has been in the midst of a divorce from Don Jr. since March.
Vanessa and Rivera, by then about 15, ran into each other at a house party on 86th Street, he said, where Vanessa — then Vanessa Haydon, the daughter of Bonnie Haydon, who ran the Kay Models agency, and stepdaughter of power lawyer Charles Haydon — asked Rivera and his friends for help with some kids who were causing trouble.
“They were stealing out the house and we searched them,” he said. “That’s how we started talking again.”
They quickly began dating, but a year later, Rivera was arrested for assault and given a 1 1/3-to-four-year prison sentence. Before transferring to an upstate maximum-security youth prison, Rivera spent a few weeks on Rikers Island, where Vanessa — who would go on to give birth to five of the president’s grandchildren — came to visit him with Rivera’s mother.
“She was heartbroken that I was being taken away,” he said. “The first time [she came to visit], she was upset — she cried a little bit — but after a while, we get used to things. She only came to visit me twice because her mother forbid her from coming to visit me.”
Once upstate, Rivera quickly got a rep that caught the eye of the Latin Kings, a street gang that formed in Chicago in the 1940s but that is now reputed to be the largest Hispanic gang in the world. “A few fights, a few slashings, and my name was ready in the prison as a person who was a bad guy.”
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Valentin Rivera and his then-girlfriend Vanessa Trump (née Haydon) at a New York City prom
Vanessa kept in touch with him in prison, and after a 16-month sentence, “I came home [to New York City], I was a full-blown Latin King, and now I came home to a whole nation of Latin Kings.”
He also came home to Vanessa. Though they were young, Rivera tells us that he and Vanessa were deeply in love and even discussed getting married and having children. She presciently told Rivera that she wanted to have five kids — which she eventually did with Don Jr.
Rivera declined to discuss the specifics of his activity in the gang, saying only, “I carried out things that needed to be carried out in the Nation.”
As well as criminal activities, the Latin Kings — whose New York arm was founded in Collins Correctional Facility in 1986 — pride themselves on social work, like feeding the homeless. Rivera says that outside prison, he rose through the ranks.
“[Vanessa] was worried in the beginning,” Rivera told us, “but after I guess seeing the power of who I became, she was cool with it.”
Vanessa regularly drove Rivera to gang meetings at locations around the city, including the El Bohio community center on the Lower East Side. She wasn’t welcome to stay for meetings since she was neither a member nor — without Latin heritage — eligible to become one.
“She was fascinated. We were kids. She liked the street life at the time,” said Rivera. “She liked that type of environment — being around gang members and stuff.”
At Dwight — where Rivera could frequently be seen at the school gates waiting to pick her up — he gave her a dangerous mystique. Asked what appealed to Vanessa about the gang lifestyle, Rivera said, “Maybe it was the attention she was getting. From her classmates,” he said, “from everybody.” (A Dwight classmate once described Vanessa to New York magazine as “an ill thug.”)
While Vanessa blended in with the uptown set, Rivera told us that after spending time around gang members, she became a little more “rugged” and even “a little cocky.”
“She got into a couple of little catfights,” Rivera told us. “She was pretty jealous,” he said, “as far as other girls and stuff, she let it be known that I was her man.”
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Valentin Rivera and his then-girlfriend Vanessa Trump (née Haydon)
(This will be familiar to reality star Aubrey O’Day, who had an affair with Don Jr. in 2012 while he was married to Vanessa. A pal of O’Day’s recently told Page Six that when Vanessa discovered the affair, she called O’Day and “went gangster on her.”)
While Rivera lent Vanessa street cred and protection, her connections could be useful to him as well. Rivera says Vanessa used to drive him to deliver weed with his illegal gun stashed in the trunk of her convertible — and more than once dropped her lawyer father’s name to get out of trouble. “If we got pulled over, the police would just let us go,” he said. “She’ll give up Charles’s information. Car’s registered to Charles Haydon. They’ll just cut us loose.”
Their five-year romance ended in 1998 when Rivera discovered in the New York Post that Vanessa — by then a model with the Wilhelmina agency — had been cheating on him with Leonardo DiCaprio.
“DiCaprio’s luscious love is 20-year-old fashion model Vanessa Haydon. The passionate pair have been inseparable over the past two weeks,” Page Six revealed on May 1, 1998. They “tried to keep a tight lid on their budding romance — but it all spilled out during a private party in a trendy SoHo loft last week … The couple could be seen holding hands, kissing and cuddling into the wee hours in a dimly lit corner.”
“I don’t think it’s a fling,” an acquaintance of Vanessa told Page Six at the time.
Although he was heartbroken and humiliated, Rivera says his fellow gang members teased him about her infidelity, with two of them holding a third as if he were on the bow of a ship and singing Celine Dion’s “My Heart Will Go On,” the theme from DiCaprio’s movie “Titanic.”
Asked if Rivera ever considered retaliating against DiCaprio, he laughed. “I thought about it!”
A week after the breakup, Rivera was arrested by the FBI on RICO charges, which he later beat. He did several more long stints in prison — including for negligent homicide because of a tragic accident in which he shot a friend while they were fooling around with a gun — but became “inactive” in the Latin Kings in 2013 and has since turned his life around. A father of one, Rivera now drives seniors to medical appointments.
Rivera — who says he’s no fan of President Trump and wasn’t thrilled to see her move on to Don Jr. — calls Vanessa his “first love,” and in spite of their bad breakup, says, “I’m happy for her that she has five beautiful children and she’s doing well.”
Reps for Vanessa didn’t respond to multiple requests for comment.
Bliss
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U.S President Donald Trump's face will feature on Israeli coin marking 70th anniversary of Israel independence, following decision to move US embassy to Jerusalem
'Jewish Citizens congregate to thank God and President Trump for canceling the Iranian Deal'
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(Of course now... according to a couple of Trump "experts" in here, "He's Hitler and a Nazi"
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- Celebratory coin has President Trump's face side by side with head of King Cyrus
- The biblical character allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem 2,500 years ago
- Makers of coin Mikdash Educational Center liken Trump to saviour from bible
'Jewish Citizens congregate to thank God and President Trump for canceling the Iranian Deal'
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(Of course now... according to a couple of Trump "experts" in here, "He's Hitler and a Nazi"
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andreboba
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U.S President Donald Trump's face will feature on Israeli coin marking 70th anniversary of Israel independence, following decision to move US embassy to Jerusalem
- Celebratory coin has President Trump's face side by side with head of King Cyrus
- The biblical character allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem 2,500 years ago
- Makers of coin Mikdash Educational Center liken Trump to saviour from bible
'Jewish Citizens congregate to thank God and President Trump for canceling the Iranian Deal'
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(Of course now... according to a couple of Trump "experts" in here, "He's Hitler and a Nazi"
LOL. The global playbook on Trump is if you flatter him and play up to his ego, he's like a baby with a pacifier and will literally agree to anything you want him to do.
Because of this, Trump doesn't realize when he's being manipulated.
Israel putting Trump on a commemorative coin is silly and ridiculous. But the Israelis know Trump will LOVE it.
All I'm saying is the Trump administration needs to be careful. Netanyahu already convinced Trump to void the Iran nuclear deal, which has isolated the poltical moderates in Iran opposed to a nuclear weapons program. That vacuum has given space to the Iranian hard liners to pursue a nuclear weapons program without any international oversight.
Israel has already bombed Iranian targets in Syria since the U.S. has left the Iran nuclear deal.
Israel wants a war with Iran, except they want the U.S. to fight it for them.
Netanyahu believes any peace treaties with Iran are not credible and the only way to secure Israel's future security is by regime change in Tehran, preferably from military action.
Apparently so do Donald Trump and John Bolton.
It's both embarrassing and dangerous that we have a POTUS whose ego is so fragile that an empty gesture of putting his face on a coin makes him easy to manipulate.
If you do some research, that Israeli coin design resembles former Nobel Peace prize medals, again a play on Trump's ego.
In fact I bet Netanyahu will tell Trump this Israeli medal is 'his' Nobel peace prize.lol
Bliss
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"Israel wants a war with Iran"?
You do realize Iran has said they want to wipe Israel off the map, right?
"Putting him on a coin makes him easy to manipulate"?
You do realize that the coin came AFTER moving the embassy, right?
Speaking of Manipulation... Iran and Obama = bedmates and bags of billions in the dark of night, lol. I'm sure they told Obama if he was muslim, he'd be greater than Mohamad. Whatever it took to keep cranking that uranium gift from Hillary and getting their palms greased with an obscene amount of money!
At Israel "already BOMBING IRAN",
What is it with (you) lefties who can't comprehend when people defend themselves - you accuse them of being the aggressor when they're actually not the instigator...
The strikes came after 20 rockets were fired at Israeli military positions in the Golan Heights overnight.
To continue lol-ing at 'stoking Trump's ego'. Because no one stroked Obama's ego when he was Prezzie.
At one point, he was prepared to part water for his followers. You're hilarious, AB.
#Barack'sMessiahcomplex
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
Thursday, April 09, 2015
"I have placed my rainbow in the clouds. It is the sign of my covenant with you."
President Obama waves from Air Force One in Jamaica on April 9, 2015. (Image: White House, Twitter)
Tuesday, September 01, 2009
President Barack Obama addresses a town hall meeting on health insurance reform inside a hangar at Gallatin Field in Belgrade, Mont., on Aug. 14, 2009. Official White House photo by Pete Souza. Source: Official White House Photo Stream September 1, 2009
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
"Our Lord and Savior Barack Obama"
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Saturday, June 14, 2014
"God sent us Barack Obama"
Sunday, April 08, 2012
Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.
The people who sat in darkness saw great light; and to them who sat in the region and shadow of death, light is sprung up. [Matthew 4:16]
Sunday, September 18, 2011
"Pass This Bill" = "Feed My Lambs" (John 21:15)
At a rally on the campus of North Carolina State in Raleigh, N.C. Wednesday where President Obama went to drum up support for his jobs bill, this happened.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: I love you, Barack!
THE PRESIDENT: I love you back. (Applause.) But first — but if you love me — if you love me, you got to help me pass this bill. (Applause.) If you love me, you got to help me pass this bill.
Thursday, November 06, 2008
Prominently displayed poster at Obama's campaign headquarters in Lake City, Fla.
Saturday, June 06, 2009
"Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."
"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."
- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas
Tuesday, February 24, 2009
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President Barack Obama pause as he speaks at the close of the Fiscal Responsibility Summit, Monday, Feb. 23, 2009, in the Old Executive Offi...
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/2009/02/president-barack-obama-pause-as-he.html?m=1
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
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US President Barack Obama, seen here on February 4, 2009, speaks regarding executive compensation in Cross Hall at the White House in Washi...
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Obama at fund-raiser at Steven and Judy Gluckstern's home, April 9, 2007. George Soros is seated to the right of the stairs. (Published in "How Barack Obama Struck Fund-Raising Gold, New York Magazine April 16, 2007; Photo-credit: Michael Edwards (note that this is the actual photo as published by New York Magazine.
Obama.
U.S. President Barack Obama speaks about the economy during a visit to Hudson Valley Community College in Troy, New York September 21, 2009. Source: Reuters.
I have hundreds more, lol......
andreboba
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"Israel wants a war with Iran"?
You do realize Iran has said they want to wipe Israel off the map, right?
"Putting him on a coin makes him easy to manipulate"?
You do realize that the coin came AFTER moving the embassy, right?
Speaking of Manipulation... Iran and Obama = bedmates and bags of billions in the dark of night, lol. I'm sure they told Obama if he was muslim, he'd be greater than Mohamad. Whatever it took to keep cranking that uranium gift from Hillary and getting their palms greased with an obscene amount of money!
At Israel "already BOMBING IRAN",
What is it with (you) lefties who can't comprehend when people defend themselves - you accuse them of being the aggressor when they're actually not the instigator...
The strikes came after 20 rockets were fired at Israeli military positions in the Golan Heights overnight.
To continue lol-ing at 'stoking Trump's ego'. Because no one stroked Obama's ego when he was Prezzie.
At one point, he was prepared to part water for his followers. You're hilarious, AB.
#Barack'sMessiahcomplex
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
Thursday, April 09, 2015
"I have placed my rainbow in the clouds. It is the sign of my covenant with you."
President Obama waves from Air Force One in Jamaica on April 9, 2015. (Image: White House, Twitter)
Tuesday, September 01, 2009
President Barack Obama addresses a town hall meeting on health insurance reform inside a hangar at Gallatin Field in Belgrade, Mont., on Aug. 14, 2009. Official White House photo by Pete Souza. Source: Official White House Photo Stream September 1, 2009
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
"Our Lord and Savior Barack Obama"
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Saturday, June 14, 2014
"God sent us Barack Obama"
Sunday, April 08, 2012
Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.
The people who sat in darkness saw great light; and to them who sat in the region and shadow of death, light is sprung up. [Matthew 4:16]
Sunday, September 18, 2011
"Pass This Bill" = "Feed My Lambs" (John 21:15)
At a rally on the campus of North Carolina State in Raleigh, N.C. Wednesday where President Obama went to drum up support for his jobs bill, this happened.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: I love you, Barack!
THE PRESIDENT: I love you back. (Applause.) But first — but if you love me — if you love me, you got to help me pass this bill. (Applause.) If you love me, you got to help me pass this bill.
Thursday, November 06, 2008
Prominently displayed poster at Obama's campaign headquarters in Lake City, Fla.
Saturday, June 06, 2009
"Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."
"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."
- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas
Tuesday, February 24, 2009
›
President Barack Obama pause as he speaks at the close of the Fiscal Responsibility Summit, Monday, Feb. 23, 2009, in the Old Executive Offi...
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
›
US President Barack Obama, seen here on February 4, 2009, speaks regarding executive compensation in Cross Hall at the White House in Washi...
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Obama at fund-raiser at Steven and Judy Gluckstern's home, April 9, 2007. George Soros is seated to the right of the stairs. (Published in "How Barack Obama Struck Fund-Raising Gold, New York Magazine April 16, 2007; Photo-credit: Michael Edwards (note that this is the actual photo as published by New York Magazine.
Obama.
U.S. President Barack Obama speaks about the economy during a visit to Hudson Valley Community College in Troy, New York September 21, 2009. Source: Reuters.
I have hundreds more, lol......
Do you have a reply besides, "...but Obama!!"
Believe it or not, BHO was a very popular POTUS among a wide cross section of Americans and around the world.
People invested great hope in Obama and wanted to believe he could do all things. However that fanatical adulation wasn't something Obama NEEDED or SOUGHT OUT.
Obama wasn't insecure and didn't need constant validation like our current POTUS does. Flattering Obama wasn't going to change his policy positions.
You can mock BHO's popularity, but that's not his fault.
BHO didn't call people names, he didn't ridicule and insult his opponents, he didn't have his lawyers pay off pornstars, he didn't brag about grabbing women by the pussy, he never said he knew more than his generals or request a military parade down Pennsylvania Ave., he didn't withhold his tax returns or have his physician fabricate his medical records, and he never lied and said a political opponent was born in a foreign country and was ineligible to be president.
BHO dignified the WH with his presence.
Trump is leaving shit stains.
As for the Iran Nuclear deal, that wasn't some bilateral negotiation. The UK, Russia, China, France and Germany were participants who approved and were signatories to the deal, as well as the EU.
Trump backed out of the deal without a better alternative and was basically against the deal because...Obama.
Without site verification on the ground in the Iran, there is no deal.
Without the USA, the Iran Nuclear deal is voided.
Why would Iran negotiate a future deal with us when they know we can't be trusted to honor proliferation agreements signed by other presidents??
Really, Trump doesn't want a nuclear deal with Iran. What's scary is Trump doesn't know what he's doing and he just pushed the ME closer to a nuclear arms race.
If Iran restarts their nuclear weapons program, this time they won't lock it down because treaties with the USA under Trump mean shit. Since the Iran Nuclear Deal is basically dead, the only way now to stop Iran from getting nukes is military intervention
And if Iran gets the bomb, Saudi Arabia is going to want one too.
But at least Trump got his face on a shiny new medal.
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Beasty
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Lol. Its like you're debating a generic C program.
Peach State Scholar
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Yeah. There's also "but Hillary!" and "FAKE NEWS!"
Bliss
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Who the hell lied to you and told you Obama didn't seek validation? On what planet?? LMAO!Do you have a reply besides, "...but Obama!!"
Believe it or not, BHO was a very popular POTUS among a wide cross section of Americans and around the world.
People invested great hope in Obama and wanted to believe he could do all things. However that fanatical adulation wasn't something Obama NEEDED or SOUGHT OUT.
Obama wasn't insecure and didn't need constant validation like our current POTUS does. Flattering Obama wasn't going to change his policy positions.
You can mock BHO's popularity, but that's not his fault.
BHO didn't call people names, he didn't ridicule and insult his opponents, he didn't have his lawyers pay off pornstars, he didn't brag about grabbing women by the pussy, he never said he knew more than his generals or request a military parade down Pennsylvania Ave., he didn't withhold his tax returns or have his physician fabricate his medial records, and he never lied and said a political opponent was born in a foreign country and was ineligible to be president.
BHO dignified the WH with his presence.
Trump is leaving shit stains.
As for the Iran Nuclear deal, that wasn't some bilateral negotiation. The UK, Russia, China, France and Germany were participants who approved and were signatories to the deal, as well as the EU.
Trump backed out of the deal without a better alternative and was basically against the deal because...Obama.
Without site verification on the ground in the Iran, there is no deal.
Without the USA, the Iran Nuclear deal is voided.
Why would Iran negotiate a future deal with us when they know we can't be trusted to honor proliferation agreements signed by other presidents??
Really, Trump doesn't want a nuclear deal with Iran. What's scary is Trump doesn't know what he's doing and he just pushed the ME closer to a nuclear arms race.
If Iran restarts their nuclear weapons program, this time they won't lock it down because treaties with the USA under Trump mean shit. Since the Iran Nuclear Deal is basically dead, the only way now to stop Iran from getting nukes is military intervention
And if Iran gets the bomb, Saudi Arabia is going to want one too.
But at least Trump got his face on a shiny new medal.
I can't with you right now luv, just ri-dic-ulous if you think that man didn't drink - no guzzle - on the adoration and adulation. He wrote books about his "incredible wisdom and life lessons" and, you know, if you loved him, if you LOVED HIM, you would buy them!
He constantly moaned about FOX news, at times kept conservative reporters from WH briefings, and spied on reporters who questioned him.
OMG AB..admit it!
And you best believe any dirty *shit stains* Obama left in his pre-prez wake was cleaned, scrubbed, bleached and hammered like Hillary's server. He was getting elected and fuck anyone who could have gotten in the way. #Chicagopolitics*
Do you have any idea the cacoon and strongarm protection that surrounded their golden boy? He was the chosen One..You got caught up, l got caught up, we all did - he was the second coming, lol.
Dignity to the WH..what crap. We were walked all over. Red lines laughed at, the rise of ISIS, race relations exacerbated, increased NSA power.. Sanctuary Cities, fast and furious, rise of opiod addiction. His hands weren't clean. Sure, some leaders loved him, others disrespected him more than once, when he visited. I wish you would be honest and admit he's not this pious, perfect messiah..
Just checking - how many times did you say, "but Bush.."
8 years. Thats how long and many times. Every President is compared to his predecessor, good or bad. Don't front.
Obama paying the Iranians and entering the deal... Didn't that need Congressional approval? Which he was never granted. 150 Dems allowed him veto power, which means the shit deal can be undone. Who gives a damn about other leaders. Did they put money in the eventual pot? No.
Look what Iran's Deputy foreign minister said on 22 July 2015...
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"Abbas Araghchi, who led the negotiations, made an announcement on state-controlled television that the recently reached nuclear deal with the world powers did not include limitations on Iran’s weapons capabilities or missile power and that Tehran would keep arming its regional allies.
"We have told them [the P5+1 world powers] in the negotiations that we will supply arms to anyone and anywhere necessary and will import weapons from anywhere we want and we have clarified this during the negotiations,"
In a speech the following Saturday, Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei added, "Our policy will not change with regards to the arrogant US government."
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It's laughable that you would speak about "Iran not trusting us again", when they're the biggest Liars in the world. As if they kept to everything in the deal. Dream On - they even told Obama publicly, screw you we'll do what we want.
And Obama rolled over and basked in the adulation of the deal.
Are you an Iranian sympathizer and anti-Israel?, because Iran is NOT our Ally.
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DudeNY12
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This MF'er! SMH!
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/politics/bill-gates-donald-trump-intl/index.html
Bill Gates made some eyebrow-raising claims about President Donald Trump on Thursday, saying he doesn't know the difference between two sexually transmitted diseases and that it was "scary" how much Trump knew about Gates' daughter's appearance.
Taking audience questions about his interactions with Trump at a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation meeting, the former Microsoft honcho said he first met Trump in December 2016. He told the audience that Trump had previously come across his daughter, Jennifer, at a horse show in Florida.
"And then about 20 minutes later he flew in on a helicopter to the same place," Gates said, according to video of the event broadcast by MSNBC late Thursday. "So clearly he had been driven away but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter.
"Anyway, so when I first talked to him, it was actually kind of scary how much he knew about my daughter's appearance. Melinda (Gates' wife) didn't like that too well."
Gates also said he discussed science with Trump on two separate occasions, where he says the President questioned him on the difference between HIV and HPV.
HPV stands for human papillomavirus and is defined by the US National Institutes of Health as "a group of related viruses" which is sexually transmitted and can cause some types of virus, warts and cancer. HIV -- human immunodeficiency virus -- is a sexually-transmitted disease which breaks down the immune system and can lead to AIDS.
"In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody -- I think it was Robert Kennedy Jr. -- was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things. And I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that.
"Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other," Gates said.
CNN has reached out to the White House for comment.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/18/politics/bill-gates-donald-trump-intl/index.html
Bill Gates made some eyebrow-raising claims about President Donald Trump on Thursday, saying he doesn't know the difference between two sexually transmitted diseases and that it was "scary" how much Trump knew about Gates' daughter's appearance.
Taking audience questions about his interactions with Trump at a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation meeting, the former Microsoft honcho said he first met Trump in December 2016. He told the audience that Trump had previously come across his daughter, Jennifer, at a horse show in Florida.
"And then about 20 minutes later he flew in on a helicopter to the same place," Gates said, according to video of the event broadcast by MSNBC late Thursday. "So clearly he had been driven away but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter.
"Anyway, so when I first talked to him, it was actually kind of scary how much he knew about my daughter's appearance. Melinda (Gates' wife) didn't like that too well."
Gates also said he discussed science with Trump on two separate occasions, where he says the President questioned him on the difference between HIV and HPV.
HPV stands for human papillomavirus and is defined by the US National Institutes of Health as "a group of related viruses" which is sexually transmitted and can cause some types of virus, warts and cancer. HIV -- human immunodeficiency virus -- is a sexually-transmitted disease which breaks down the immune system and can lead to AIDS.
"In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill-effects of vaccines and somebody -- I think it was Robert Kennedy Jr. -- was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things. And I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that.
"Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other," Gates said.
CNN has reached out to the White House for comment.
Beasty
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Madeleine
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Lmao
Loki
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As usual when it comes to Obama, your opinion is clouded by your intense dislike for the man. Everything you listed as a criticism above is either just flat out wrong or not accurate.
Red lines... "While some Israelis were initially very worried that by pulling back from military action Obama had undermined his credibility, they were relieved by the outcome. The removal of Syria’s chemical weapons is an accomplishment that Prime Minister Netanyahu, a leader who has had his share of disagreements with Obama, described as “the one ray of light in a very dark region.” Such sentiments were echoed repeatedly by senior Israeli defense officials, who by 2015 considered the Syrian chemical weapons threat so insignificant they did not include gas attacks as a scenario in their annual emergency home-front drills." https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/07/obama-syria-foreign-policy-red-line-revisited-214059
Rise of ISIS..."Trump points to the withdrawal of troops from Iraq in 2011, under Obama, as “the founding of ISIS,” but experts say the expansion of the Islamic State after that point can’t be pinned on the troop withdrawal alone — if at all. And there’s the fact that President George W. Bush had signed the agreement and set the date for that withdrawal."
https://www.factcheck.org/2016/08/trumps-false-obama-isis-link/
Race relations....I can post link after link after link of Obama calling for racial unity
NSA power...
"Under Executive Order 12333 as it previously existed, NSA analysts had to make an initial determination and apply a set of privacy rules before sharing raw signals-intelligence information with other parts of the intelligence community. After this change, it doesn’t necessarily have to be an NSA analyst that makes that determination—that information can be shared with other parts of the intelligence community.
So it doesn’t change the substantive rules, it doesn’t change the scope of collection, it doesn’t change the types of protection, it doesn’t change the possible uses; it essentially just broadens the group of people who can apply those protections to the raw intelligence." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/obama-expanding-nsa-powers/513041/
Fast and Furious...a tragic event, but no scandal...."Yet when one digs into the facts of the scandal—and a terrific piece of journalism in Fortune this week is a great help—it becomes clear that Fast and Furious has been blown completely out of proportion by Republican leaders, and a terrible yet all too common tragedy on the United States’ border with Mexico has been fashioned into an ugly political weapon." https://www.thenation.com/article/facts-get-way-gops-fast-and-furious-investigation/.
Will finish the others later
Beasty
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Trump pushes the world right into Putin's hands
"Leaders from France to Japan open up to the Russian president as the US goes its own way."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/trump-pushes-the-world-right-into-putin-s-hands
"Leaders from France to Japan open up to the Russian president as the US goes its own way."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-24/trump-pushes-the-world-right-into-putin-s-hands
Beasty
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Not really. Dotard is going to either:
1.) Have one too many cheeseburgers and croak
2.) Get impeached
3.) Lose the next election
4.) Get stabbed by Melania
At minimum, at lot of blue jackets are going to be ice grilling him after midterm election.
Personally I want to see him impeached so I can lol at the temper tantrums.
DudeNY12
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Lol! I like all of those options. Part of me would love to see him really throw a hissy if he doesn't have a congress kowtowing to his whims, and turning the other cheek to all of his cruddy shit. Hopefully, the midterm election results will provide that chance as it's more than clear that these current morons are simply falling in place behind the ultimate moron.
I had a Trumpster today reciting his same BS lines about "donating millions and millions", accumulating "billions and billions" in wealth, and my favorite... donating his salary. I asked the guy... Given the braggart he's always been... Why do we not know if these charities that are supposedly receiving these "millions and millions" each year? Is that "billions and billions" before or after his liabilities and debt? And why is it still a secret? Finally... OK, in regards to the donated salary... Have you considered the vast amounts he's been billing the U.S. Government since he's gone under USSS protection? His response was that my questions/allegations are "made up socialist lies by HRC, Obama, Bernie and other unAmerican commies". I actually think he doesn't get the concept of debt and liabilities. I'm still chuckling. You just can't make this shit up
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