Which Type of White Girl Is For You?

tuckerreed said:
I agree with ya missb, I am black, have black parents and never lived in a bad neigbhorhood(accept as a missionary kid living in central america caring for the poorest capesinos as a child).

why doesnt being black and acting black connote the lifestyle I and many other blacks grew up with. blacks and whites should read "OUR KIND OF PEOPLE" by Lawrence Otis Graham. His book talks about the kind of life I grew up in. We went to private schools, belonged to country clubs and social clubs like Jack and Jills, Had Nannies, went to debutante parties and balls, summered in Marthas vineyard or the carribean St. Barths, went to Ivy League universities and HBCUs, didnt get financial aid or scholarships to go to Uni, our parents paid for it, never went to jail nor were not afraid or hate the police or government.

I dont claim to be better than anyone, rich or poor, I just wish that their was equal time for blacks who arent on welfare or had to struggle or lived in the ghetto. Blacks are more diverse than the media and pop culture tries to portray us.

that would be acting white I guess to many black folks in the masses, but i can tell you that none of my black wealthy friends ever wanted to be white nor do I. I respect people of all races, but I like the color God made me.

be proud be strong sistah Miss!!
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tell it as it is, tucker. how are you today anyway?
 
tuckerreed said:
great Cris, its the weekend and I'm packed to go skiing in VT tomorrow! how are you?
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i am great sir. you going to Vermont? How long are you gonna be gone for? And you might want to take a few coats and jackets along with some thick cowboy boots with you.
 
thats awesome Mistress. here in teh US, the black underclass is what the media focuses on, and thus anyone from the other classes,except for the athletes and celebrities--gets put down or very little exposure. I dont really care to have people peaking in my home garden or joining my clubs, but I do care whether blacks and the country are gettng an adequate picture of the black community.

there was a wonderful documentary on last evening about US Reconstruction after the American Civil War. My great great great Uncle, served as one of the first Black Senators in US history. this history is crucial to the self esteem of many black children but it is under reported because the media only portrays the struggling blacks and not about the successful blacks in history.

black children in the US are miseducated by a public school system that wont teach african history or the real african american history. many of the middle and upper middle class are taking their children out of pubbies in record number to eithe HOme school or privately educate them
 
tuckerreed said:
thats awesome Mistress. here in teh US, the black underclass is what the media focuses on, and thus anyone from the other classes,except for the athletes and celebrities--gets put down or very little exposure. I dont really care to have people peaking in my home garden or joining my clubs, but I do care whether blacks and the country are gettng an adequate picture of the black community.

there was a wonderful documentary on last evening about US Reconstruction after the American Civil War. My great great great Uncle, served as one of the first Black Senators in US history. this history is crucial to the self esteem of many black children but it is under reported because the media only portrays the struggling blacks and not about the successful blacks in history.

black children in the US are miseducated by a public school system that wont teach african history or the real african american history. many of the middle and upper middle class are taking their children out of pubbies in record number to eithe HOme school or privately educate them[/quote

That sounds interesting, do you have any links to webpages about that part of history? Who was your great great great Uncle (if you don't mind me asking) - what a person to have in the family!

What you say is sadly very true here too, so I can imagine what it would be like in the US, where the history of the 20th century has been so turbulent for race relations. I remember learning next to nothing in school about afro-carribbean historical, musical, literary figures - although I did go to hear Benjamin Zephaniah! Still, there are texts published over here about better education for Afro-Carribbean youth, and several projects going on in London schools to target underachievers from those communities, so hopefully this might see some improvement in fact although probably not in the ignorant perception of society as a whole.
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Cris, i live about 6 hours south of VT and own a wee cabin up there so I am very used to it and love the snow and cold. we always have cold weather up North this time of year.



Miss: yes lets hope things change all over, but sadly it will be very slow here as the statistics for blacks is so poor and getting worse
 
thats awesome Mistress. here in teh US, the black underclass is what the media focuses on, and thus anyone from the other classes,except for the athletes and celebrities--gets put down or very little exposure. I dont really care to have people peaking in my home garden or joining my clubs, but I do care whether blacks and the country are gettng an adequate picture of the black community.
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Network news tends to "ghettoize" Blacks Increasingly, African-Americans appear mostly in crime, sports and entertainment stories. Rarely are Blacks shown making important contributions to the serious of the nation. Television ads now show many Blacks and eschew stereotypes. However, hidden patterns of differentiation and distance emerge on close analysis. Not surprisingly, for instance, Blacks do not touch Whites in the ads, but (in Whites) they rarely even touch each other, conveying a subtle message of Black skin as taboo. A hierarchy of racial preference is embedded within the casting of commercials.

Furthermore, the local news paints a picture of blacks as violent and threatening. When the media covers blacks being accused of a crime, the blacks are more likely to be shown in mug shots or in physical custody of a police officer. TV news coverage showing blacks being physically restrained happens twice as often as similar coverage of white defendants. This insidious bias sends a visual message that blacks deserve to be physically restrained because they are more dangerous than any other race. Yet even black crime victims get less media attention.

there was a wonderful documentary on last evening about US Reconstruction after the American Civil War. My great great great Uncle, served as one of the first Black Senators in US history. this history is crucial to the self esteem of many black children but it is under reported because the media only portrays the struggling blacks and not about the successful blacks in history.
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Consider this:

African-Americans are rarely asked for their opinions and rarely seen giving expert advice.
Media images of African-Americans are more likely to be in either entertainment or blue-collar jobs.
When African-Americans are covered, they are predominantly featured in stories about affirmative action, crimes, welfare, or political unrest. Compare this to white persons, who usually appear in stories about business, elective politics, or other conventional activities.

Conservatively assuming that over 70 percent of Americans use TV news as their primary source of information, biased stories can powerfully influence viewers' sense of reality. For example, in a recent large drug bust featured on the news, police arrested ten alleged drug dealers--seven were white and three were black. Local news coverage showed all three of the black defendants and only one white one, even though the number of white defendants was more than double the number of black. Unfortunately, many viewers likely paid more attention to the screen instead of the story, internalizing the event as another black crime.
And when an African-American is involved in a major issue, all of a sudden it becomes the cornerstone of the negative story. Far after the Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill hearings, news features dealt with sexual harassment at work. After the Mike Tyson rape trial, stories about date rape were everywhere. During and after the O.J. Simpson trial, the media found it necessary to discuss domestic violence. In other words, the timing of the news stories tied the negative issue to the African-American male. To make matters worse, even years after these major events, the names, photos, and tape footage of these same African-Americans are used over and over in covering similar problems that permeate all of our society or culture. When covering Caucasian male criminals, the media makes sure you have sympathy for him too: "He was emotionally unstable," or "he had psychological problems and was on some medication" or "he came from an abusive home" (like Jeffrey Dahmer).

Have you ever noticed that on local news shows anywhere in the country, when you do see a black news anchor, it's usually a black women anchor with a white male anchor? You rarely see a black male anchor. As if a brother can't cover serious news!




black children in the US are miseducated by a public school system that wont teach african history or the real african american history. many of the middle and upper middle class are taking their children out of pubbies in record number to eithe HOme school or privately educate them
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One thing that has hurt the black community of America is that we have had much of our history torn from us because of slavery. No one ever came to America like blacks; no other people were sold and beaten like slaves. If you take away a person's history, then they have nothing. Blacks still haven't overcome this.

Even worse than the lack of a history is the fact that many blacks have been "sold" a bill of lies by the liberal media. Many are going against everything that we were ever taught morally. What is happening to the black family now is even more destructive than when we were on the plantations.

We have been suckered into killing our own children. Abortionists have killed more of our black children than the Ku Klux Klan could ever lynch. In 1985, blacks were counted as 12 percent of the population, but we were counted in 30 percent of the abortions! Three million black children never lived to see the light of day.
 
I understand this is a touchy topic and you all will jump on me for not being "politically correct" but hey we ALL know what I meant. Acting "white" means acting rich, acting corny, acting upper class or speaking proper and listening to rock music and country music and watching TV shows like Full House and 7th Heaven. Acting "black" is talking ghetto with hip hop slang, wearing baggy clothes, trying to be gangsta, listening to rap music, etc.

Now we all see this and we all see people who act this way and this might not be what we say out loud but it is what we are thinking. If we werent thinking this way we wouldnt define people as wigger or whatever. By saying that you are acknowledging that they are acting black. Now i am in no way implying that acting low class or criminal or uneducated means acting black. I know that isnt true. Not all blacks are ghetto. Some are rich. Some are middle class. Some whites are poor. Some are rich. But the common thought in America by many whites is that blacks are poor and only a lucky few are smart, rich and educated. Many wiggers see this image and see rap videos and THINK this is what being black is. By trying to be ghetto the emulate this "aspect" of "black" culture. That is all im saying.

By the way, if it helps, I dont act 'black" or "white". I watch supposed "white TV shows", I like rock music, and love white women and speak proper sometimes. On the other hand, i speak hip hop slang sometimes, I love hip hop, I dress "hip hop" for the most part (baggy jeans, caps, jerseys, etc.). But I am not all the way on either side. My older brother doesnt like how i wear my baseball caps (forward with the front bill curved and folded) since he says that is white. Most blacks wear their caps forward to backward with the bill still as straight as when they bought it. I wear it that way sometimes too. They wear doo rags and timbalands and I hardly do that. I dont like my clothes TOO baggy and i dont let my pants sag to my knees the way my brother tends to.

But you all know what i mean when i say acting black or acting white, so dont act dumb or try to start a fight with me and force me to define what is what. Most people dont act one way or the other, we are all a hybrid of our surroundings. But wiggers who want to be black only see what they see on TV and so they THINK that is what acting black is like.
 
tuckerreed said:
modesty my friend is a virtue and a sign of good breeding, thank your parents!
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I am very honored, sir. I always thank my parents not because i have a nice lifestyle because vanity is the quickest way to psychological doom. I always thank them not because they raised a supposedly smart, brilliant brotha as i have never, for one second, sat down and exalted myself as those who exalt themselves shall be humbled at the feet of the lowly. I thank them because they raised a young man who can be able to lie in his bed one day and be able to smile amorously at the good things his parents did for his life. I am thankful because they raised a young man who can someday, stand on his own two feet and do to his own family, even more than what he got. Thats all i really needed from my parents which they gave me and i, in return, am grateful.

You should exalt your parents because they raised a wonderful brotha who can be a shining light for the black men of today.
 
I thankfully dont act white or dont act black. I dont know what that means. I know what acting "stereotypically white or stereotypically black means, however.

I act the way i was raised. I enjoy country, classical and music, but I also love jazz, blues, some old soul, folk, gospel, and bluegrass and some 70s pop.

I act the way I was raised, i love typical america food like pizza, chinese, regular american hamburgers and hotdogs, but i also love ethnic foods--jewish, japanese, mexican, french, etc. And I love good Southern cooking, all american pot roast and mashed potatoes too--and caviar on bellinis as well.

i love american sports like baseball and football--but I also love cricket, golf, tennis, squash, sailing and surfing

I am american so i act American!!! i love to read the newspapers, and good novels, history, and biographies

I love backgammon and chess, scrabble and bridge

i speak proper english and when I am back home i get a southern drawl

i drive an old volvo but also love my old International jeep when i go t the country and go hunting and fishing or camping or like now, skiing

I am American and I am a Black Negro. I like black and white artists and writers, i love black jazz and the great European classical masters

I am black and not acting. I come from a well to do family and not acting. I am sure others are out there too. We dont have to act like a stereotype we just are ourselves!

and i hate PC with a vengence as I am a conservative and want to crush all political correctness
 
PeyBackTime8818 said:
I think you are all confusing Wiggers from Ghetto White People...
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No, we didn't. We pointed out the differences.


WIGGERS:
These are white people who grew up in nice white families and neighborhoods clearly POSING and TRYING to be black. They LOOK hip hop but really aren't. When I see them it pisses me off greatly. Recently I saw an episode of an MTV show called "MADE" where shy, untalented high schoolers hire an expert to help train them to become something they wanna be. Sometimes it is a dancer, singer, athlete, whatever. I have seen 2 episodes where white kids wanted to become rappers. Once was a male white boy who had less talent than a dead frog. Recently it was a white girl who was even worse. I dont see why they wanted to become rappers. Some white people (and I have met quite a few) are clearly "acting" like they like hip hop culture but they are really just ACTING! These people to me are wiggers. Wigger pretenders take our culture and degrade it and insult it with their amateurish attempts to imitate it. That pisses me off.
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This is what a Ghetto Imposter is. This is what I was talking about all along.



GHETTO WHITE PEOPLE:
Now there are the "ghetto" white people. They look hip hop and LIVE hip hop as well. You all are confusing terms here and ghetto white people are not wiggers. They are exactly that, ghetto white people. NONE of us can control what skin we were born or the neighborhood we were raised in or our families. There are many white kids (like Eminem, like many i have gone to school with, and like Tessa, a girl I have dated and currently hang out with alot) who grew up in poor, mostly black areas and are NATURALLY hip hop. They walk, talk, and act black not because they "think it is cool", but because it is WHO THEY ARE. There are millions of black kids who grew up rich and around white kids and went to preppy white schools who act white. Are they "acting" or "posing" because they think acting white is being cool, or they just being themselves due to the fact that these are the only surroundings they have known their whole lives?

These ghetto white people i do not mind at all. In fact I find these types of girls very sexy. They understand and love and know black culture very well (probably know more than some blacks know about their own culture) and are very proud to act the way they do. They listen to rap, hang out with black friends, dress hip hop, talk hip hop slang, and are not racist or closet racists at all. Many of them date blacks as well. I've mentioned in past threads about how much i love white women with accents. Ghetto white girls (not wigger pretenders, but REAL ghetto white girls) talk with a real tough, hip hop style slang that I LOVE to death and find just as sexy as any southern or European accent.

In fact recently the girl I mentioned, Tessa, got into a fight with her teacher because the woman asked her why does she talk like shes black. Tessa blew up on her and got mad because this IS WHO SHE IS. It is not an act. They get just as mad for being called posers as us blacks do when we get called racist names. When someone attacks WHO YOU ARE and your way of life and what you stand for, it hurts to the core and you can't help but snap. I dont think ghetto white people are the enemy, we should embrace them. They are the only white people we can truly trust and identify with. They love our culture and wanna live it and learn more about it and that is beautiful.
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Marshall/Eminem is from Missouri, but grew up close to 8 Mile, somewhere in Detroit. He is NOT ghetto. He was a poor white boy who loved rap music.



NORMAL WHITES WHO ACCEPT BLACK CULTURE:
None of you have mentioned these types of people. There are also white girls who are seemingly just regular white girls but once you get to know them, they know tons about black culture, hip hop music and slang, and are very cool people. They do not look hip hop, but on the inside they ARE. They do not LIVE IT the way ghetto white people do, but they do know SOME rap, know SOME hip hop slang and speak it when with their black friends, and aren't corny like TOTALLY NORMAL WHITES. Some white girls you can just look at them and the way they talk, walk, dress, and act and know they are ghetto. But some seem normally white but once you know them and see how much they understand and like black culture you go WOW. These girls arent really "ghetto", but they arent your typical "whitey white" girls either. These are very rare. I met a Polish girl named Ivanna at my college (she looked just like anna kournikova man, super HOTT with much better body, nice chest and ass.....but she's engaged :cry: ) and she carries herself like your typical white girl. She isnt ghetto at all. But once we chilled and she saw my rap CD's she was like yo let me listen to that. She loved Sean Paul and reggae and Reggaeton, certain rappers, and other stuff I wouldnt expect her to know or like. I thought that was so awesome. I have met a few of these kinds of girls, and they would be my dream girl to marry.


NORMAL WHITE PEOPLE:
Regular white people (meaning whites who act white) dont understand blacks at all, and they look white, act white, and they want nothing to do with black culture or most blacks. They are only truly comfortable around really sophisticated, upper class blacks (like myself). Put them around ghetto blacks and they get nervous. If you notice, many wiggers act the same way when you put them around really HARD, tough, ghetto black people. That shows they are fakers. Ghetto white people and whites who accept black culture enjoy any type of blacks you put them around.




.........I do love and have no problems with ghetto whites who in their own eyes are really black because they grew up that way or regular white people who once you get to know them actually know alot about and accept our culture. It is all about seeing the differences and not stereotyping, which I see alot of in these posts of yours.
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I think you made have misread them. I substituted the word 'wigger' with Ghetto Imposter. That is the only difference between my post and this one of yours.
 
sardonic, you have to ask Peyback about that. I explained my views as have others, but still others have another viewpoint
 
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