Bliss
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That was directed at the stupid cornball mars comment.There's nothing remotely funny about Trump.
BTW, the LIBERAL MEDIA were screaming that "Trump gave them aluminum foil for blankets!!!!"
Fooking idiots.
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BTW, the LIBERAL MEDIA were screaming that "Trump gave them aluminum foil for blankets!!!!"
Fooking idiots.
Bliss
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No fucks given by the Dems when Americans are seperated from their kids. We have an enourmous foster system and a huge DCS dedicated to it.
No fucks given that 70% of these kids come unaccompanied sent by their parents.
Or rented by their parents to strangers in the false belief its a fast-track ticket to entry.
No fucking Dem has told them - stay home with your kids. Nor, Go back home with your kids.
It's: "we DEMAND INSTANT ENTRY.
NOW. EVERYONE. COME IN. NO vetting
NO PAPERS. IT'S INHUMANEEE!"
Try that dem bullshit with Customs at the airport. I dare ya.
No fucks given that 70% of these kids come unaccompanied sent by their parents.
Or rented by their parents to strangers in the false belief its a fast-track ticket to entry.
No fucking Dem has told them - stay home with your kids. Nor, Go back home with your kids.
It's: "we DEMAND INSTANT ENTRY.
NOW. EVERYONE. COME IN. NO vetting
NO PAPERS. IT'S INHUMANEEE!"
Try that dem bullshit with Customs at the airport. I dare ya.
Madeleine
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As a mother this breaks my heart, especially the last pic.There's nothing remotely funny about Trump.
andreboba
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Get your facts straight before you rant.
We already went through this with Dubya and Obama.
When parents with kids enter the country illegally, you process them and SEND THEM BACK HOME.
Immigrant rights groups weren't calling BHO the Deporter In Chief just to hurt his feelings.
70% of children under 10 aren't coming here unaccompanied by their parents.SMH
And I would think you'd be very concerned about where exactly are ALL THE YOUNG GIRLS who were taken from their parents and shipped off to who knows where by DHS??
Trump is basically kidnapping children to use as hostages to get Dems and Republicans to fund his stupid wall.
The really sad part is many of these kids will never see their parents again because they will get lost in the bureaucracy.
Kids in the foster system, (why even bring this up?), are there because their parents committed felonies or where deemed by the courts unfit to care for them. If extended family can't care for them, there isn't much alternative besides the foster care system.
Entering the country illegally is not a felony, so why is the Don stealing people's kids??
This story is going to blow up in Trump's face when more stories come out about the abuses many of these children suffered in detention centers across the country.
Beasty
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DudeNY12
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No, no, no! Can't question any of the POTUS' initiatives, no matter how moronic they sound. Remember... He "has a good brain", and hires only "the best people.
Wait she's all for a space force as the 6th branch of the military?
Once again... You just can't make this sh*t up.
Bliss
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Every American parent now is committing felonies? Says who? You?
What about awaiting trial and unable to post bond? Disgraceful of you, AB.
Furthermore, there are thousands of cases of kids taken from American parents for mere accusations!
One woman actually had her child taken away from her by police because she didn't keep her coughing child in the hospital overnight for observation, despite doctors telling her there was nothing more they could do to alleviate his cough!
AB, don't get me started on story after bullshit story!
Trump is Kidnapping kids now? You're being truly pathetic and hysterical now.
Man, it makes me even more grateful this country is not being controlled and destroyed by unhinged, opportunistic liberals. You may control the media narrative but you don't control people's senses and the ability to see through your fake outrage.
Yes, AB, 70%.
In 2014, Under Obama's watch 52,000 UNACCOMPANIED KIDS invaded our borders. STRAIGHT FACTS!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obamas-illegal-immigration-plan-alarms-migrant-childrens-advocates/
You want to keep screaming like a fool that Trump "kidnaps and steals kids", AB?
Here, scream this -
Eye-popping surge of illegal immigrants abducting children
Children 'abducted' by illegals hoping to pose as families at U.S. border
By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Tuesday, May 22, 2018
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/22/children-abducted-illegals-posing-families-us-bord/
The government warned federal judges in 2016 that their attempts to create a catch-and-release policy for illegal immigrant families would lead to children being “abducted” by migrants hoping to pose as families to take advantage.
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Two years later, children are indeed being kidnapped or borrowed by illegal immigrants trying to pose as families, according to Homeland Security numbers, which show the U.S. is on pace for more than 400 such attempts this year. That would be a staggering 900 percent increase over 2017’s total.
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andreboba
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Find your conscience, Bliss.
Under Trump's Zero Tolerance policy at the border, almost 2400 children have been separated from their parents over the last 5 weeks.
You can pretend ALL those kids came here without their real families, just know that neither Jeff Sessions or Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen has pushed that BS story.
BHO sent over 2 million illegals back to Mexico without separating kds from families.
What Trump is doing is sadistic and will result in lifelong psychological damage to many of those children who will NEVER be reunited with their families.
Since you claim to know so much about the foster care system, you must know how hard it is to locate a child once they've been placed in it.
Under Trump's Zero Tolerance policy at the border, almost 2400 children have been separated from their parents over the last 5 weeks.
You can pretend ALL those kids came here without their real families, just know that neither Jeff Sessions or Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen has pushed that BS story.
BHO sent over 2 million illegals back to Mexico without separating kds from families.
What Trump is doing is sadistic and will result in lifelong psychological damage to many of those children who will NEVER be reunited with their families.
Since you claim to know so much about the foster care system, you must know how hard it is to locate a child once they've been placed in it.
Bliss
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My conscience is just fine. Not falling for this deflective trick the Dems are pulling.
Trump has sent hundreds of thousands of parents with kids home, too. And?
Obama didn't send all the 52,000 unnacompanied kids home - he moved them around the country. FACT.
These parents have two options. Go home or seek asylum, but if you do, we seperate you from your child because we can't have kids IN ADULT FUCKING HOLDING CELLS.
We spend $35,000 on these kids to house feed medical check and educate them while they wait. It's $100 a day, meanwhile on American foster kids we spend $70.
Madeleine
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Yeah exactly, what is the purpose of separating them? That is evil! If you want to send them back, then send the kids back with their parents! Even in Europe during the refugee crisis we weren’t doing stuff like that! A lot of kids lost their parents so the Red Cross tried to find their relatives.
Loki
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Bliss Obama did everything he could to send those kids back, and did send as many as the legal process allowed... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-under-fast-track-push-idUSKBN0FJ2LE20140715
Obama's hands were tied due to a law that said minors with no parents were legally entitled to see a judge before getting deported, and with such an influx of minors the process dragged on. Obama tried everything he could to motivate Congress to reform this law and other immigration matters SO HE COULD DEPORT the kids, but it was no easy process. So PLEASE stop trying to paint BHO as some kind of "soft on illegal immigration, open borders, bleeding heart.
Obama seeks to modify law to speed up deportation of unaccompanied children
"On Monday, the president gave a speech calling for Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform. However, House leaders have said they do not intend to pass any such legislation in this election year. Obama said he has asked Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson to give him recommendations of potential executive actions he can take to deal with some aspects of immigration reform.
"The only thing I can't do is stand by and do nothing while waiting for [House leaders] to get their act together," Obama said in his Rose Garden speech." https://www.rt.com/usa/170096-obama-change-immigration-law/
Loki
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"Our message, absolutely, is don't send your children unaccompanied, on trains or through a bunch of smugglers," the president said when challenged about whether he's been resolute enough in discouraging such reckless illegal immigration. "We don't even know how many of these kids don't make it, and may have been waylaid into sex trafficking or killed because they fell off a train.
"Do not send your children to the border," he implored. "If they do make it, they'll get sent back. More importantly, they may not make it."
"Federal law dictates that undocumented immigrant minors from countries other than Mexico must be detained ahead of their appearances in immigration court. Meantime the United States is required to provide their health care and basic needs before releasing them to relatives or foster parents.
"If they come from a non-contiguous country," Mr. Obama explained, "then there's a lengthy process."
The U.S. resources that are being increasingly tied up by the influx of undocumented minors proffers a vexing situation for the president, whose immigration promises have been stymied for years by partisan gridlock on Capitol Hill."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-to-central-americans-do-not-send-your-children-to-the-border/
Bliss
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What part of they reject going back and apply for bogus asylum don't you understand? When that happens, you cannot have these kids sleeping in huge holding cells with multiple stranger adults!
Furthermore, Europe is not pious, nor concerned -
Unaccompanied and separated children made up 92 per cent of all under-18s arriving in Italy via the central Mediterranean Sea passage from North Africa in 2016, and the figure remained at this level through the first two months of 2017 – up from 75 per cent the year before.
It comes amid a surge in the number of youngsters pursuing routes to Europe in recent years, with at least 300,000 unaccompanied and separated children moving across borders having registered in 80 countries last year – a near fivefold increase from 66,000 in 2010–2011.
Most of these children came from Eritrea, the Gambia, Nigeria, Egypt and Guinea. Ninety-two per cent of children who arrived in Italy in 2016 and the first two months of 2017 were unaccompanied – up from 75 per cent in 2015.
The children indicated that they had been held against their will or forced to work – or had agreed to work for pay, and then were not paid. A smaller number told researchers they had been offered arranged marriage or cash for blood, organs or body parts.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...k-exploitation-smugglers-crisis-a7941301.html
Bliss
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Wow. And when this administration gives the same warning, they're called Nazis.
So why didn't Obama get the protests and despicable news coverage Trump is getting?
Do you see how it's nothing but an opportunistic political ploy by the Dems?. They don't care. They want every last one of these illegals and future voters in here, noooow.
Americans be damned.
Loki
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There were plenty of nationwide protests Bliss, even the ACLU took shots at BHO, per below... In our prior discussions about immigration, you did not believe me when I said that numerous immigration groups, especially here in Arizona HATED BHO for his tough stance on deporting illegals, they were burning Obama dolls and hanging him in effigy. "America is expelling illegal immigrants at nine times the rate of 20 years ago (see article); nearly 2m so far under Barack Obama, easily outpacing any previous president." https://www.economist.com/leaders/2014/02/08/barack-obama-deporter-in-chief
http://abc7chicago.com/archive/9495326/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/theo...central-connecticut-state-university/6088643/
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20160108-story.html
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/deporter-chief
Really interesting article here...
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-deportation-machine-obama-built-for-president-trump/
So if dems wanted illegals here for their votes, they forgot to tell BHO...
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Peach State Scholar
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andreboba
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You still won't answer why Trump feels the pressing need to separate immigrant children from their parents after crossing the border, yet Obama and Dubya didn't.
That's what different and why Trump's own party is speaking out against this brutal policy.
Madeleine
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I know Europe isn’t „pious“. But I don’t care what they are doing there, either they stay together or they leave together.
As for 92percent of the refugees 2016 being „children“ that’s not true.
Bliss
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LOL, don't you worry, many of these 'kids' the libs love to call them, are not kids either.
Stay together....where??????? So You want to jail kids? You think just because a man is caught at the border with a kid you want to believe he's the daddy? What if he's a child smuggler?
FLORES vs RENO
In March 1993, U.S. Supreme Court issued a ruling:
Flores vs Reno. The Court decided minors couldn't be incarcerated with adults illegally crossing the U.S. border. The decision was the result of a long dispute in how to best care for the children while the adults were detained for criminal proceedings. When aliens cross the border illegally - they are incarcerated until their criminal case is decided. The argument was ¿why should children be incarcerated while their parents are in jail?¿ It seemed a fundamental violation of international human rights.The Flores case drew a line in the sand. Children could not be incarcerated with their parents or accompanying adults while being held for illegal immigration violations. And a subsequent 1997 agreement stipulated that children must be placed in a safer environment where they could enjoy certain privileges, including education, a clean, safe environment. it was considered a ¿victory¿ for human rights.
Madeleine
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Has this been going on before Trump or is it a new development?