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meowkittenmeow said:
I saw an interesting video about gendered actions, feminism, and "toxic masculinity". It discussed how if feminism doesn't want to relate actions and behavior with gender, then "toxic masculinity" can't possibly exist. I am paraphrasing, but it was interesting.

For example...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/...ng-about-masculinity-in-an-age-of-change.html

Pushing the "toxic masculinity" b.s. on children as young as kindergarten. That's just creepy. So, I do understand and agree with most of what K says.
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Agreed. Instead of calling certain things toxic behavior traits that both genders can occupy it becomes another not so subtle way to say men are toxic. I truly wonder if any of these people have sons or fathers or brothers. Especially the black ones. They personally know how the world views black men in particular and they're cool just adding gasoline to the fire smh
 
Boys play differently than girls. Kindergarten and school doesn’t give enough consideration to that and tends to expect and reward behaviour that comes more naturally and easier for most girls. There has to be more room for rough play and competitiveness without vilifying such behaviours. Masculinity isn’t inherently more toxic than femininity. Both sexes can use their strengths in a toxic way. I’m not an advocate of gender mainstreaming. My standpoint is that man and woman have equal value and equal rights, but we aren’t the same.
I also agree on what has been said about the early sexualisation of children. In Germany they are also introducing new sex ed curricula even in Kindergarten with all sorts of things that little children have no business having to know about.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
I get some of what you are saying. At what age do you think they are "developmentally ready"?
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Well first, I don't think it's the school's job to decide that or to teach it. If it really is that they are about "teaching" then it should be around the same time they used to do the whole biological changes/puberty/sex ed classes around 5th/6th grade.
 
The whole idea that gender shouldn't even exist....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! Boys and girls are different, they are meant to be different, people are freaking crazy who don't get that and I think it's absolutely ridiculous and really harmful that these crazy ass people are gaining so much traction.
 
K said:
The whole idea that gender shouldn't even exist....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! Boys and girls are different, they are meant to be different, people are freaking crazy who don't get that and I think it's absolutely ridiculous and really harmful that these crazy ass people are gaining so much traction.
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Yeah I don't get it. We can measure the differences its not a social opinion. There are different levels of oestrogen in women and different bone density different muscle development. Its a natural occurrence and the most tell tale sign is reproduction. No matter how you feel or mentally perceive yourself you still need a male and a female to reproduce your genetic material.
 
K said:
It's way beyond the old school gym teacher stuff. Kids weren't being bombarded by the details about that gym teachers intimate life.

CA is completely out of control. Books in kindergarten, regulations for the curriculum to include all sorts of things, pushing to take gender off birth certificates, now you aren't supposed to use gender-specific pronouns, on and on it goes.

The trans community is an extremely small percentage of the population and it's being represented as if it's the majority. There are parents out there deciding that their child must be trans because they want to play with dolls or trucks or dress up in clothing that may not be the gender traditional.

I have no issue with people being however they are or fing whoever they do. I do take issue with it being pushed into children's lives before the time they are developmentally ready.
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We'll just keep our guns. Lefties want to change everything ......lol
 
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K said:
Local (white) mom reached out to NAACP to help with her (biracial) child being bullied. Racial slurs etc. Kid ended up with a brain bleed. School won't remove the bully, says they are investigating. No need to remove the kid they will just put him in a different classroom....never mind that slamming the victims head into a pole happened on a field trip.

https://fox40.com/2018/12/03/folsom-mom-keeping-son-home-from-school-after-bullying-incident/
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Total horseshit. Get a lawyer and that kid will be removed the next day.
 
K said:
Well first, I don't think it's the school's job to decide that or to teach it. If it really is that they are about "teaching" then it should be around the same time they used to do the whole biological changes/puberty/sex ed classes around 5th/6th grade.
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I guess the lesbian gym teacher can teach them in high school? Lol. Yeah, I would have to agree with you there. Besides, the internet is going to teach them before anyone else will.
 
The Dark King said:
Agreed. Instead of calling certain things toxic behavior traits that both genders can occupy it becomes another not so subtle way to say men are toxic. I truly wonder if any of these people have sons or fathers or brothers. Especially the black ones. They personally know how the world views black men in particular and they're cool just adding gasoline to the fire smh
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They just hate men, plain and simple.
 
K said:
The whole idea that gender shouldn't even exist....pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease! Boys and girls are different, they are meant to be different, people are freaking crazy who don't get that and I think it's absolutely ridiculous and really harmful that these crazy ass people are gaining so much traction.
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No, they aren’t different. Here is why __________________ (insert feminist drivel).

Yeah, it’s always, “we are all the same” until it comes time to point the finger at who is wrong. Then all of a sudden, we are different again.
 
meowkittenmeow said:
No, they aren’t different. Here is why __________________ (insert feminist drivel).

Yeah, it’s always, “we are all the same” until it comes time to point the finger at who is wrong. Then all of a sudden, we are different again.
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To be fair... that is just about every group nowadays.
 
ColiBreh1 said:
@Bliss Since you read MTO so much, did you see this trending article?:

https://mtonews.com/trend-blackfishing-white-girls-become-black-for-likes
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RicardoCooper said:
What in the Rachel Dolezal is this????
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ColiBreh1 said:
I saw a video on YouTube discussing the topic. Supposedly some of these white IG models feels like lightskin/redbone/yellowbone/biracial/mimixed/exotical bw IG models are getting too much attention from BM & even WM.

So they're going beyond just getting a phat ass & taking the next step to compete with the lightskin & biracial IG models.
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Bliss said:
*Weird that l didn't get your tag alert.
(Why do you post that anti-WW/BM link on here, grr)

I did read this yesterday and had actually read the many nasty tweets directly on twitter. IMO, she is behaving no differently than the niki minaj types who bleach their skin and wear straight blonde weaves or wigs.

Sweden has an abundance of straight blondes and pales. Maybe she wants to be different and that's why she deep tans and curls and dyes her hair black. Exotic looks are rare there. Who knows. She says she isnt trying to look "Black" and she isn't behaving any differently than herself, so l believe her when she says it's just a look she likes and adopted.

What do you think?
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Even though this was just an internet controversy almost a month ago, it looks this is now getting mainstream media attention within the last week:







Emma Hallberg, a white teenager and self-proclaimed model, is being accused "blackfishing," or pretending to be black, to get more followers.
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A popular model and influencer on Instagram is being accused of deceiving her 250,000 followers by darkening her skin. Emma Hallberg, 19, is white, but some are claiming she has been darkening her skin tone to look black in an effort to gain followers. The Swedish model was exposed when a Twitter user posted starkly different side-by-side images that appear to show Hallberg with different skin tones. She denies that she's trying to fool her followers, saying she gets naturally tan in the sun.
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Real fam, what are your thoughts on "blackfishing"?
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An Instagram model is being accused of "blackfishing", which is pretending to be black, but she says she never claimed to be black. Did she do anything wrong?

Then, a woman is desperate to have another son wants to trade her one frozen female embryo for a stranger's male embryo.

Plus, Amanda Bynes is speaking out for the first time since her very public downfall and says she wants to return to acting. Is it a good idea?

Wendy, Sirius XM's Michelle Collins, Hot 97's T.T. Torez and author Dr. Marc Lamont Hill weigh in on these Hot Talk headlines.
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Interesting how almost no one in America believes animals have a soul, yet they get treated better than a lot of humans.

Some cultures and religions believe that animals also have a soul. My position is if there is an afterlife why wouldn't they?

If your conscious survives death, That's what a soul is, no? Are dogs and apes not conscious? Sure their conscious is limited, but so is ours.

Anyone here believe animals have a soul? If you believe in an afterlife, I would love to hear why not.
 
Beasty said:
Interesting how almost no one in America believes animals have a soul, yet they get treated better than a lot of humans.

Some cultures and religions believe that animals also have a soul. My position is if there is an afterlife why wouldn't they?

If your conscious survives death, That's what a soul is, no? Are dogs and apes not conscious? Sure their conscious is limited, but so is ours.

Anyone here believe animals have a soul? If you believe in an afterlife, I would love to hear why not.
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The concept of a soul originates from the Bible but the literal ancient Hebrew word for soul is Nephesh and it means an "aspect of sentients" so basically anything with a mind has a soul. In fact, the Bible itself refers to animals as a soul “The righteous one is caring for the soul of his domestic animal, but the mercies of the wicked ones are cruel -Proverbs 12:10
 
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Thump said:
The concept of a soul originates from the Bible but the literal ancient Hebrew word for soul is Nephesh and it means an "aspect of sentients" so basically anything with a mind has a soul. In fact, the Bible itself refers to animals as a soul “The righteous one is caring for the soul of his domestic animal, but the mercies of the wicked ones are cruel -Proverbs 12:10
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Interesting.

I wasn't aware of that being in the Bible. Can't help but think about the odds of conversing with someone that knows this.
 
Beasty said:
Interesting how almost no one in America believes animals have a soul, yet they get treated better than a lot of humans.

Some cultures and religions believe that animals also have a soul. My position is if there is an afterlife why wouldn't they?

If your conscious survives death, That's what a soul is, no? Are dogs and apes not conscious? Sure their conscious is limited, but so is ours.

Anyone here believe animals have a soul? If you believe in an afterlife, I would love to hear why not.
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What makes you claim the words in bold? I don't think that's true at all. I think most American's believe animals have souls.
 
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