TRUMP Thread

[Bliss]

Serious question, how many Americans do you believe would have died if there NEVER was a shutdown??
What number of deaths would be acceptable to you before you decided maybe we should probably take a different course??
500K?? 1 million??

And anyone who believes herd immunity is an acceptable solution is insane. MILLIONS of people would die before herd immunity took effect.
Yeah being on lockdown for months is a bitch, but this is a pandemic. It's not a normal situation and the solutions aren't easy.
Under what scenario is it okay for 2-3 million Americans to die in less than a year and we brush it off for the 'public good'??

I just don't understand people who have this nonchalant attitude about people dying unnecessarily.
It may not be your life so you don't value it the same, but it is a LIFE.

I wonder what your attitude would be if COVID19 was attacking children and young adults disproportionately, instead of the elderly and the sick.

Also, I'm skeptical of anything that's released weeks before a presidential election.

Well, 7 million have caught it, and recovered.
So again, no need to shut the economy down, or continue to.

Plus, l want my Governor to stop telling me l have to wear a face-diaper if l'm alone and outdoors.
And stop threatening constituents with jail if they don't comply.

 

[Bliss]

It was NOT A FEDERAL DIRECTIVE.

It was a NY STATE directive orchestrated by Gov Cuomo and he freely admits it.

'Cuomo reversed the directive under pressure on May 10.."...Cuomo noted Monday that it wasn’t well understood early on how readily the virus could be spread by people.."


See NY Press story below.

New York Hospitals Sent 6,300 Recovering COVID Patients to Nursing Homes

The directive was intended to help free up hospital beds for the sickest patients as cases surged, but several relatives, patient advocates and nursing administrators blamed the policy for helping to spread the virus among the state’s most fragile residents
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/cor...ring-covid-patients-to-nursing-homes/2502812/

(Same Governors order happened in NJ and PA with high resulting deaths)

 

[DudeNY12]

No one has "gone ghost", lololol.

Loser Libs are just like their 2-time Loser Hillary, so smug, thinking they're smarter than everyone else..
Normal people see exactly what Trump set out to do.
Do you honestly think he doesn't know about the Conservative Satire site after 4 years?
President Trump is a Master of Ceremonies and if you watched his rallies, he's full of satire and mocks the Dems brilliantly, in particular the Activist Media. It's why the Tweet is still up. He got millions to read Jack being mocked...

"...After seeing account after account tweet out one particularly bad story, CEO Jack Dorsey realized he had to take action. Dorsey smashed a glass box in his office reading "Break In Case Of Bad Publicity For Democrats." Inside the case was a sledgehammer for smashing Twitter's servers.

"Red alert -- shut the servers down! Shut them all down!"

Dorsey ran downstairs and started smashing as many computers as he could, but he did need to ask for some help, as the hammer was pretty heavy. None of the programmers could lift the hammer, either. Eventually, they managed to program a robot to pick up the sledgehammer and smash the servers.

After hearing the Twitter employees talk about critical theory, the robot got woke and began attacking all the cis white males..."

LOL.

Loser Libs... Well, that's clever! Right out of Trumps playbook, but what else can one expect from someone who regularly demonstrates that he's yet to get a good grasp of basic grammar rules and usage. Perhaps he was correct when he said that blacks are too stupid to vote for him as they're not many of us willing to support him.

 

[Bookworm616]

So his response as leader had nothing to do with the 200k+ dead? His inability to lead his party to actually pass a bill that would help Americans get through this ain't on him?
Other countries may have seen a slow down of GDP but they acted responsibly and covered payroll for companies so that they wouldn't lay people off and kept cash in their pockets. Their poverty levels aren't rising like it is here. So just like you people want to give him credit for the stock market and low unemployment this shit falls at his feet as leader as well. Especially when dude dismantled the pandemic response team without replacing them for whatever childish reason and he himself knew this was an awful virus in JANUARY. Imagine if we had a responsible adult informing the country on proper steps to take back then? Maybe we'd be able to really open up our economy like other countries.

Your response is totally emotional. What does 200+ dead have to do with your claim he tanked the economy, just like "you said he would"? You have added so many things that have zero to do with my reply to your post.

But, is Reuters a "reliable" source for the Left??

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M

CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.

VERDICT
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response.

 

[Bliss]

Loser Libs... Well, that's clever! Right out of Trumps playbook, but what else can one expect from someone who regularly demonstrates that he's yet to get a good grasp of basic grammar rules and usage. Perhaps he was correct when he said that blacks are too stupid to vote for him as they're not many of us willing to support him.

Have the libs not demonstrated from day one how much of sore losers they are?
24/7. Nonstop. In their thrashing sleep.

Threats to blow up the WH.
Trump's head decapitated.
Attacks on his child.
Wishing death on him.
Violently attacking his supporters.
Bogus attempts to impeach him.
Fake dossiers and fake Russian connections.
Wishing he dies of the Chinese Virus.
Sending him Ricin.

Losers.

Please submit the evidence he said, "Blacks are too stupid to vote for him."

OTOH, we know for a fact that Biden told you,
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black'.

 

[The Dark King]

Your response is totally emotional. What does 200+ dead have to do with your claim he tanked the economy, just like "you said he would"? You have added so many things that have zero to do with my reply to your post.

But, is Reuters a "reliable" source for the Left??

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-...-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M

CONCLUSIONS
There is disagreement over how to describe the changes at the NSC’s Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense in 2018. The departure of some members due to “streamlining” efforts under John Bolton is documented. The “pandemic response team” as a unit was largely disbanded.

VERDICT
Partly false: The Trump administration disbanded the “pandemic response” team, but some of the team members were reassigned to roles that included pandemic response.

So failure to respond and withholding information from the public that could have saved lives and preserved the economy is on who again?

 

[Peach State Scholar]

Serious question, how many Americans do you believe would have died if there NEVER was a shutdown??
What number of deaths would be acceptable to you before you decided maybe we should probably take a different course??
500K?? 1 million??

And anyone who believes herd immunity is an acceptable solution is insane. MILLIONS of people would die before herd immunity took effect.
Yeah being on lockdown for months is a bitch, but this is a pandemic. It's not a normal situation and the solutions aren't easy.
Under what scenario is it okay for 2-3 million Americans to die in less than a year and we brush it off for the 'public good'??

I just don't understand people who have this nonchalant attitude about people dying unnecessarily.
It may not be your life so you don't value it the same, but it is a LIFE.

I wonder what your attitude would be if COVID19 was attacking children and young adults disproportionately, instead of the elderly and the sick.

Also, I'm skeptical of anything that's released weeks before a presidential election.

The "all lives matter" crowd really has a hard time understanding this.

 

[DudeNY12]

Have the libs not demonstrated from day one how much of sore losers they are?
24/7. Nonstop. In their thrashing sleep.

Threats to blow up the WH.
Trump's head decapitated.
Attacks on his child.
Wishing death on him.
Violently attacking his supporters.
Bogus attempts to impeach him.
Fake dossiers and fake Russian connections.
Wishing he dies of the Chinese Virus.
Sending him Ricin.

Losers.

Please submit the evidence he said, "Blacks are too stupid to vote for him."

OTOH, we know for a fact that Biden told you,
"If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black'.

Lol! OK, sure. I guess you don't see/hear this president when he's whining about "not being treated well", "mean" and "nasty" people when the truth is he has dished out a lot more hate, but his poor feelings can't deal with the fact that he's simply reaping much of what he's sown.

As for your list. All it points out is that regardless of who's POTUS they're people who wish them harm and so on. In fact... I totally recall that very often haters of the last president had plenty to say/wish about him and his family's well being including often calling him, his wife and daughters apes.

Do I have evidence???... No, I don't. Do I feel a racist such as he could've made such a statement... Absolutely. Similarly, Trump has no proof that the Central Park Five were guilty, but he sure as heck hates that their convictions were overturned.

 

[Peach State Scholar]

Lol! OK, sure. I guess you don't see/hear this president when he's whining about "not being treated well", "mean" and "nasty" people when the truth is he has dished out a lot more hate, but his poor feelings can't deal with the fact that he's simply reaping much of what he's sown.

As for your list. All it points out is that regardless of who's POTUS they're people who wish them harm and so on. In fact... I totally recall that very often haters of the last president had plenty to say/wish about him and his family's well being including often calling him, his wife and daughters apes.

Do I have evidence???... No, I don't. Do I feel a racist such as he could've made such a statement... Absolutely. Similarly, Trump has no proof that the Central Park Five were guilty, but he sure as heck hates that their convictions were overturned.

Trump supporters really have a hard time understanding this. The party that prides itself on personal accountability and derides people on the left for being snowflakes are quick to turn a blind eye to Trump in those same situations.

 

[DudeNY12]

Trump supporters really have a hard time understanding this. The party that prides itself on personal accountability and decides people on the left for being snowflakes are quick to turn a blind eye to Trump in those same situations.

Agreed! Rules and such never apply to Trump in his and their minds. The hypocritical BS from them is mindboggling. Sadly, they do it so much (especially with this president) that it's not even a shock any longer. Gotta love the part about how they don't give a crap about anyone's bad fortune, but suddenly... They wanted everyone to show empathy for their leader's positive COVID-19 diagnosis.

 

[Bookworm616]

So failure to respond and withholding information from the public that could have saved lives and preserved the economy is on who again?

So, stopping flights from China in February was "failure to respond"? So, the entire country going on lockdown to "flatten the curve" was "failure to respond"? And boy the curve is still flattening 7-8 months later.

The fact the entire world's economy broke down because of the lockdowns worldwide would have preserved our economy?? TDK, do you even read what you write? It makes zero sense. There is not a damn thing ANY president could have done to preserve our economy during this pandemic.

 

[The Dark King]

So, stopping flights from China in February was "failure to respond"? So, the entire country going on lockdown to "flatten the curve" was "failure to respond"? And boy the curve is still flattening 7-8 months later.

The fact the entire world's economy broke down because of the lockdowns worldwide would have preserved our economy?? TDK, do you even read what you write? It makes zero sense. There is not a damn thing ANY president could have done to preserve our economy during this pandemic.

He did not shut down the country individual governors did that that's why his supporters tried to kidnap the governor of Michigan. Are you reading what you're writing or is this you trying to justify your bad choices?
Funny China's economy is bouncing back. Why? Because they shut down everywhere until they got everything under control.

 

[andreboba]

So, stopping flights from China in February was "failure to respond"? So, the entire country going on lockdown to "flatten the curve" was "failure to respond"? And boy the curve is still flattening 7-8 months later.

The fact the entire world's economy broke down because of the lockdowns worldwide would have preserved our economy?? TDK, do you even read what you write? It makes zero sense. There is not a damn thing ANY president could have done to preserve our economy during this pandemic.

Trump could have paid out more than one emergency relief fund to small businesses and workers as a stipend until the economy opened back up.
Everything Trump did was months late and lacked any federal strategy. He passed everything off to the states to avoid blame.

 

[DudeNY12]

Trump could have paid out more than one emergency relief fund to small businesses and workers as a stipend until the economy opened back up.
Everything Trump did was months late and lacked any federal strategy. He passed everything off to the states to avoid blame.

Also... I'm pretty sure the US airlines had already decided to suspend service to/from China before this president decided to block airline travel between the US and China. He's such an idiot.

 

[Bliss]

So, stopping flights from China in February was "failure to respond"? So, the entire country going on lockdown to "flatten the curve" was "failure to respond"? And boy the curve is still flattening 7-8 months later.

The fact the entire world's economy broke down because of the lockdowns worldwide would have preserved our economy?? TDK, do you even read what you write? It makes zero sense. There is not a damn thing ANY president could have done to preserve our economy during this pandemic.

Its hilarious reading their responses, they have no clue because all they watch are the filtered alphabet Media who get their media orders from the DNC.

 

[Peach State Scholar]

bUt hE jUsT sAiD tHaT tO tRigGeR the LiBz

 

[The Dark King]

Its hilarious reading their responses, they have no clue because all they watch are the filtered alphabet Media who get their media orders from the DNC.

And FOX is the only truth on earth? Lord give me strength

 

[Bliss]

And FOX is the only truth on earth? Lord give me strength

Dude, l don't watch Fox. I might catch Tucker here and there, that's it.
I read lots of news and websites. Including the Activist CNNMSDNC, just to see their collective spins on stories.

 

[K]

Agreed! Rules and such never apply to Trump in his and their minds. The hypocritical BS from them is mindboggling. Sadly, they do it so much (especially with this president) that it's not even a shock any longer. Gotta love the part about how they don't give a crap about anyone's bad fortune, but suddenly... They wanted everyone to show empathy for their leader's positive COVID-19 diagnosis.

Classic narcissists

 

[Peach State Scholar]

Also... I'm pretty sure the US airlines had already decided to suspend service to/from China before this president decided to block airline travel between the US and China. He's such an idiot.

And once the disease had actually made it state side, he took immediate action to...completely downplay it and call it a hoax. Even as the disease spread like wildfire and the economy was careening into a ditch, Trump thought it more responsible to play golf and rage tweet than to show any kind of actual leadership on the issue. But God forbid that he actually take advice from someone who knows more about something than he thinks he does. If he realized that isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is and that his knowledge is lacking (at best) we'd be much better off.

And even now, despite literally catching the damn disease getting airlifted to the hospital, he is still having super-spreader events around the country so that he can keep his ego sufficiently boosted. It takes an especially stupid person to go through something like that yet learn absolutely nothing from the experience.